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PuG
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Post by PuG »

Hi, ive been running TA Spring through Linux/Cedega but having problems with the Shift button not working ingame.

The rest works fine, but its anoying not being able to preset orders or exit from Spring :-)

Can the shift key be rebound? Ive looked through a couple of Spring files but found nothing that seems to work.

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Post by the_duke »

Same problem here :(
Everything worked fine with the old spring version. Since i updated, my shift keys dont work. OS: win 98
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Post by AF »

Windows 98 is an old OS

Expect it got clunk, you really have no business trying to get games to work on there in this day and age.

The easiest fixes to that if you're on Windows 98/95/ME are:

Upgrade to windows 2000
Upgrade to XP
Install Linux + WINE
Install React OS

No computer running versions of windows older than windows 2000 should be connected to the Internet save running games such as spring.

Cant afford to upgrade? Get ReactOS/Linux+WINE, they're free. Cant run XP its too slow? XP has a minimum requirement of 233 MHz and 64 MB RAM, although that means you have to turn all the fancy graphics off so no shadows under mouse or stretched desktops or flashy themes. You shouldn't be running spring if your computer cant run XP. And if you disagree go run Linux, it runs on the vast majority of computers.

I'm sorry but how can you expect us to give support specifically for windows 98, when even the microsoft wont support it anymore.
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AF wrote: No computer running versions of windows older than windows 2000 should be connected to the Internet save running games such as spring.
No computer running M$ windos should be connected to the net. Do you really think XP is save? Its unsafe by design. Of course windos 98 sucks too, but it will take me days to reinstall everything i need. My machine runs on 98, cause its comfortable for _me_. I use linux too, but i dont have the time to search&install all the software i get used to.

If you want to discuss operating systems please open a new thread...
AF wrote: I'm sorry but how can you expect us to give support specifically for windows 98, when even the microsoft wont support it anymore.
1) I dont expect support, cause spring is free!
2) microsoft sucks, the spring community does not!
3) If you dont like bugs being reported, dont read this forum.

Hey, AF, lower your d-gun please :wink:
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I dont have a problem with a lot of that. The problem I have is with pre windows 2000 operating systems.


Windows 98/ME/95 are immensely insecure. XP and 2000 can be secured given a level of technical know how, windows 9x can never be secured as login as it's connected to the net. Then there's the other issues, for example i buy a new printer, it'll have drivers with ti that work only for windows 2000 and above. The same for any other new hardware. Do you think a geforce 7900 has drivers for 98? And what about programs and stability? I'm sure I'd rather see an error report dialog on XP than a system crash on 98.

You say you want to keep 98 because it's comfortable for you, well expect things to get uncomfortable more often as 98 backwards compatibility is no longer an issue for the vast majority of devs.

It's like expecting spring 0.4 to play as well as 0.72 then asking for support for it and saying you're sticking with it because your comfortable with it. Antiques are fine but you don't buy a 100 year old car and drive it to work every morning because you like it.

If you're that fussed about moving programs, you can do an upgrade or better yet do a dual boot setup with XP and 98 and move them over to XP one at a time.

Or better yet Install XP and copy your 98 install into a virtual hardrive and boot it up in Virtual PC, the tools required can be found in a 20MB ISO for free somewhere on the Microsoft website. That way you have a windows 98 setup in a sandpit and if its compromised you wipe and restore. The same thing an be done on other OS' as you might be aware.
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Post by PuG »

Well replied The_Duke.
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Post by AF »

The shift button cannot be rebound

I suggest you compile on linux rather than usign cedega to run it
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Post by PuG »

Ok thanks, im not an experienced Linux user so will stick with Cedega! :)
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Post by AF »

There's a gentoo ebuild and a .deb package so you dont need to be.
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Post by mongus »

huh, win98?
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Post by AF »

exactly, you cant goto the seaside in a remote control car can you?
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Where abouts can I find the deb build? will it work fine online?

Regards
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Look in the linux forum rot he dev forum, its a thread by fbo
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Post by ultrasonicsite »

AF wrote: windows 9x can never be secured as login as it's connected to the net.
Actually my windows 98 is so old that when a virus tried running on my computer, it got an error... -_-;;

Seems pretty safe to me =D
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Post by AF »

Windows 98 is insecure.

And there are hundreds of thousands fo viruses, the fact is the virus got onto yuor computer in the first place. That wouldnt happen on a properly configured XP system. I dont think you really understand the implications of running a windows 98 system in this day and age security wise.

If your comfortable with windows 98 I think you'lll find you can set 200 and XP to look and behave almost identically to 98 only without the numerous downsides.

Set XP to use a classic theme and the classic startmenu.
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Post by BvDorp »

Win98 ftw :lol:


AF: maybe ur thinking I just said this to tease you some more, well, I did. I so love this ranting you're doing sometimes!
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Dont do that
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Post by BvDorp »

you started it :lol: 8)

E: k, it's just that sometimes I just can't resist, I think a lotta ppl feel the same way :oops:
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