Request for help with development website

[Tobi]

Intro
We have decided it that it would be a good idea to build a separate website on the berlios servers, dedicated to development and developers only (just like many other open source projects have). Items which would be covered are:

• News (new engine releases)
• Contributing (how to contribute)
• Contributors (who did contribute what and when)
• Team members
• Download (links to berlios/FU/clan-sy download pages)
• Documentation (official one - for most stuff the wiki here seems more appropriate, but e.g. the SetupGuide and development related information which barely changes could be put here).

The major advantages of this all are that the frontpage of this site (clan-sy) is freed of the large text area called "news", that contributors will finally get a central place on the web where they're mentionned, that potential new developers will know how to get in touch with the established developers and don't have to read 10 pages long sticky threads.

Also it's just in the spirit of reorganizing things.

Hosting info

Web Server
Each project receives its own Apache-style htdocs and cgi-bin directories. CGI can be executed only from the cgi-bin directory and is ScriptAliased to http://yourproject.BerliOS.de/cgi-bin/. Your domain is hosted on a name-based VirtualHost on the main project web server.
The Apache server is compiled with PHP4/MySQL support and is able to access your MySQL database.
There is a 100MB soft quota for your web site and anonymous FTP directory. (The high-capacity file server has no limit.) More space can be requested.

Why am I posting this
We're looking for a community member with PHP4/MySQL/webdesign skills to set up and maintain this website (ie. create a design, set up the database etc so we devs can as easy as possible add new contributors, modify content and just do the updates.)

If you're interested or want more information, post here or drop me or another dev a PM.

[FLOZi]

Would this site become more content-oriented then?

[Tobi]

tapspring.clan-sy.com? yes.

[AF]

http://ntai.from-hell.net

Thats a good example of what can be done with wordpress. However you need user account management ona greater level. Moth3r suggested joomla as a base when planning out the new darkstars altho he never took the final step and integrated it. Joomla also has a wordpress plugin, so thats user management, content pages, and news sorted, then the whole vast arary of wordpress and joomla plugins.

[j5mello]

This sounds like a great idea. Of all the mods and other such projects i keep up with Spring is the only one without a Dev specific... well i was gonna say forum but, hey, a full website works as well.

[AF]

A full website is soem doign considering the times we've tried to redesign this site.(all thats changed is the banner at the top a wiki added and a bugtracker)

Do a dev forum for now

[Tobi]

Note that I specifically didn't say forum, as that'd be a hell of a lot extra work to do. It's currently about a semi-static website, on which only devs can post news etc.

If succesful, we can always think of a forum later.

[AF]

No

Addign a forum would take minimal effort, just add a usergroup and a forum usign phpbb control panel, assign the forum to be visible only to that suer group + admins, then add devs and others to the suergroup to grant access.

All done within this specific site. i wasnt talking about a new message board.

However a new dev onyl message board might be even easier.

Create database, get password, upload a forum to a folder, run install.php put in details, wait for users to sign up and post.

[Forboding Angel]

I wish there was a place that established mapmakers could go to discuss their work without the community jumping in.

A place where we could post help for other mapmakers as well has climates/materials for rendering progs etc, only among other mapmakers cause honestly, this community sucks.

[AF]

Untill all that is done, use darkstars as you please.

http://ntai.from-hell.net

[Tobi]

Ah, so if I'm right I see requests for dedicated private boards for mappers, developers, modders, on taspring.clan-sy.com.

E: That's not really on topic (modifications to these forums), but I'll remember it for a bit

[jcnossen]

As tobi said the main goal is a static website with properly ordered development information.
It's not really open for discussion, but we would like to get some help with it.

[AF]

http://darkstars.byethost7.com/joomla/i ... 0&Itemid=9

Is that the sort of thginy uo want?

All setup, pretty looking ncie and does everything you asked already, stable, fast, functional.

PS :: The advert at the top is ugly, it's automatically added by the host, a switch from byethost to berliOS rwould get rid of it......

[AF]

There's a shot

courtesy to smoth for header shots, and the core commander remake to whoever it was who posted the shot.

View ti here

To switch to BerliOS would be a simple reuplaod of the site to BerliOS then adding the mysql data, keeping those posts settings and usernames intact (only my username lol)

[j5mello]

the Core Com is DasBruce's handywork.

[Tobi]

nice work AF, but some comments:
* EIther the side menu or the top menu is redundant. One menu is enough IMO. You seem to have 3 menus even? (one behind the advert)
E: I prefer top menu, that generally takes less space, but side menu has an advantage too: you can add some hotlink buttons below it, like "get firefox" and "berlios" etc.
* We don't need a login thingie, as it will be a semi-static site, at least initially. If any, it would be for developers only so it doesn't need to be on the frontpage. (Allowing users to register and post comments etc. means we'll need moderators and anti spam measures too.)
* The banner is a bit high and should be above the top menu.
* Content wise (menu items I mean) it isn't fully right either, but I'll leave that for now.

Lets first make sure this can technically work.

I looked at this joomla project and it looks quite useful - but what does it need? Do we need to run anything more then apache w/ php 4.4 and 1 MySQL database? Because we don't have more on berlios.

[AF]

The technical side has all been sorted out, once you decide if that sit is for you, then give the go ahead and I'll transfer.

Since I last spoke to you I've done a little changing, I've removed the very top menu that was useless. I've changed the menu underneath eh main title so ti sues a different menu from the side menu so that you can configure them separately in admin config.

I've added a better looking admin theme, removed the syndication bit on the main page (until i can get images that fit with the style), added SVN information as an example of linking a news post or blog post to the menu, and I've redone the team member page from this site and added it to the side menu as an example of creating and linking in static pages.

I also integrated JD-Wiki(DocuWiki), (that can also have pages linked into the menu as I'll probably show later on). And I moved the newsflash thing so it displays at the bottom of every page and has a read more link.

That and other little tweaks and additions.

As I said before, the site is fully functional.

[Tobi]

AF is now setting this up; no need to volunteer anymore.

[AF]

All setup and running, it just needs devs to fill it with stuff

http://taspring-linux.berlios.de

[AF]

Oh btw, anyone who needs access to edit or change content just pm me or jelmer.