http://storage.msn.com/x1pmAkndzHuOfc-L ... mByeirUd6f
lokking at that screen it seems to be that unit costs are a bit unbalanced.
a bit concerned about ballance
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[K.B.] Napalm Cobra
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Sorry, from a screenshot you managed to decifer that unit costs are a bit unbalanced?
hold it in hold it in... nuts
MAWOOHHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!
That has to be the funnyist thing I heard all day
Thanks for chering me up at work.
All that shows is a bunch of buildings made using the built in TA Hook (so you can place down a line of buildings... It doesnt show how much time it took nor how much it cost. No balance from a screen shot?
Im getting funny looks for my collegs dam u...
I had planed on not posting anymore, but you just brought me out of retirment... gah I only managed 4 days that sux...
aGorm
hold it in hold it in... nuts
MAWOOHHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!
That has to be the funnyist thing I heard all day
Thanks for chering me up at work.All that shows is a bunch of buildings made using the built in TA Hook (so you can place down a line of buildings... It doesnt show how much time it took nor how much it cost. No balance from a screen shot?
Im getting funny looks for my collegs dam u...
I had planed on not posting anymore, but you just brought me out of retirment... gah I only managed 4 days that sux...
aGorm
And thats an excuse for saying its unbalanced?? You could build thpose lines manyully and it would still not be unfeasable. I just dont get how you made a conection between a row of buildings and the game being unbalanced! Tell me if im being unreasonable!
Also... like i said, TA Hook is so you can place down a line of buildings.
aGorm
Also... like i said, TA Hook is so you can place down a line of buildings.
aGorm
it OTA i couldnt just build millions of turrets and planes coz the game was balanced to make players choose what to build and balance the defensive needs against offensive needs. however in spring it seems to me that one can just build everything at no cost. this could make the game crap because it takes away the tactical/strategy part of the game. thus i am concerned that the building time/costs r not balanced properly.
Sorry, there are perhapes 100 turrets there? (i only did a lose count..)
TA Spring will let you have a much high unit limit.
If someones spends the money on all that then it will certainly take some time to build and it will certainly kick the arse of anythuing that comes near it.
However the guy would lose because he stupidly built all his defences in that one spot.
Anyone with a few brains would go round that and kill him from behind.
I repeat you cant say a game is unbalanced because of a lot of defencive structus being placed!! You still have to pay the metal and energy costs and in that time the enamy would have an equaly sizable army to kill it with! Just cause there not in the screen shot doesnt mean there not there!.
Plus... like Agiel said, he was probablie cheating and secondly, he has said already in another post that he is makeing a huge base, giving it to the comp, building his own forces and attacking. Thats hardly a game of TA atall. Noone would probablie ever get that anyway because they be being attacked all the time.
aGorm
TA Spring will let you have a much high unit limit.
If someones spends the money on all that then it will certainly take some time to build and it will certainly kick the arse of anythuing that comes near it.
However the guy would lose because he stupidly built all his defences in that one spot.
Anyone with a few brains would go round that and kill him from behind.
I repeat you cant say a game is unbalanced because of a lot of defencive structus being placed!! You still have to pay the metal and energy costs and in that time the enamy would have an equaly sizable army to kill it with! Just cause there not in the screen shot doesnt mean there not there!.
Plus... like Agiel said, he was probablie cheating and secondly, he has said already in another post that he is makeing a huge base, giving it to the comp, building his own forces and attacking. Thats hardly a game of TA atall. Noone would probablie ever get that anyway because they be being attacked all the time.
aGorm
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Sean Mirrsen
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Firstly, I do not understand - is that supposed to be a screenshot showing rows of my Drones defences? Because if yes, that kind of defence can be put up in mere minutes (in much greater numbers), but the weapons of these defences are too weak to pose a threat to a large army.
If no, and the screen was supposed to show some large piece of land covered by Punishers, or a big base filled with all kinds of stuff, then yes, I've been using cheats to set those up. I'm playing for testing and fun, remember? The cheat (actually a combination of two cheat commands) makes the costs and buildtime 1. It's easy to set up big bases in no time.
If no, and the screen was supposed to show some large piece of land covered by Punishers, or a big base filled with all kinds of stuff, then yes, I've been using cheats to set those up. I'm playing for testing and fun, remember? The cheat (actually a combination of two cheat commands) makes the costs and buildtime 1. It's easy to set up big bases in no time.
XTA is not unbalanced, however I always play core(which is feasible now, as it was not in OTA). , because they are cooler, and have more defensive buildings.
The build cost thingy is stupid, besides it was absolute annihilation units you were seeing in that screeny, so nothing about spring. Besides that I think AA is pretty balanced.
The build cost thingy is stupid, besides it was absolute annihilation units you were seeing in that screeny, so nothing about spring. Besides that I think AA is pretty balanced.
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Warlord Zsinj
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I find it somewhat ironic that most of the people blasting WillRiker here were the same ones who cried out when the rest of the TA community blasted them for their silly ideas.
And Redfish, I prefer OTA. I can take most players as Core in it, you just have to learn how to use them. Its far more rewarding to win as Core then it is as Arm.
And Redfish, I prefer OTA. I can take most players as Core in it, you just have to learn how to use them. Its far more rewarding to win as Core then it is as Arm.
Yes.... but the Trees had a point bassed in fact... you realy, realy, and I mean realy here, cant decide a games unbalanced from a screen shot.
Thats like saying just because I've built a row of 50 gardians that the game is unbalanced. Its not. Because the time and effot that would be needed to make it. The simple fact you made it is infact more the miricle because the other player should realy have wiped you out if thats what you were spending all your resorces on. And if they didn't think of the army they will have built in the time it took you to build all that.
Besides... He build them when he was playing no one. Noone was attacking him. As he said, he build absord deffence systems , gave them to the AI, then built an army and though it against it. Hardly what will happen in a game.
So you see, its no representation of how balanced the game is at all.
aGorm
Thats like saying just because I've built a row of 50 gardians that the game is unbalanced. Its not. Because the time and effot that would be needed to make it. The simple fact you made it is infact more the miricle because the other player should realy have wiped you out if thats what you were spending all your resorces on. And if they didn't think of the army they will have built in the time it took you to build all that.
Besides... He build them when he was playing no one. Noone was attacking him. As he said, he build absord deffence systems , gave them to the AI, then built an army and though it against it. Hardly what will happen in a game.
So you see, its no representation of how balanced the game is at all.
aGorm
Our ideas where ideas, his ideas are complaints and questions, some of them just plain silly. Riker you should ahve gottn yourself into the moddin scene and looked at what was beign made instead of hemming yourself in in OTA. As a result you're without udnerstanding of thigns which most people here know and thus your prone to making posts which seem sensible to you but silly to us.
Try to suggest a few more ideas and complain a little less and maybe people will appreciate you more than they do, untill then I'd just say that no matter how annoying riker might be at times its not right to do to him what people did to us. I will not argue to defend soemone in a thread only to find they've gone and done it to someone else immediatly after in the way some people have done to riker and me.
Try to suggest a few more ideas and complain a little less and maybe people will appreciate you more than they do, untill then I'd just say that no matter how annoying riker might be at times its not right to do to him what people did to us. I will not argue to defend soemone in a thread only to find they've gone and done it to someone else immediatly after in the way some people have done to riker and me.