Shields and weapon AoE

[Caydr]

Smaller-sized shields are uselss against weapons with any good-sized AoE. IMO it'd make sense if any weapon that impacted a shield had its area of effect largely eliminated, say, divided by 20 or something.

For instance, it'd be impossible to make a tank with a short-range shield, since virtually all tanks worth mentioning use plasma, and all plasma weapons tend to have somewhere between 64 and 128 AoE.

[Pxtl]

Smaller-sized shields are uselss against weapons with any good-sized AoE. IMO it'd make sense if any weapon that impacted a shield had its area of effect largely eliminated, say, divided by 20 or something.

For instance, it'd be impossible to make a tank with a short-range shield, since virtually all tanks worth mentioning use plasma, and all plasma weapons tend to have somewhere between 64 and 128 AoE.

Well, can't you use bounce-shields to avoid that problem?

[AF]

But that just isnt the same, you want a proper shield that works the way you expect, bouncing shields will just end up looking wierder.

[SinbadEV]

Shields should be able to dampen the AOE effect as part of their definition... most sci-fi shields would completely block any physical projectile and any explosive damage it would cause...

[Nemo]

Please let this be definable. I've already made use of shields not blocking AoE in an attempt to improve hit detection (the shield detonates the weapon, which has a small AoE).

However, shields blocking AoE would be nice for my directional damage idea:
http://www.tauniverse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34392

Which is currently proving difficult to implement with the hit detection the way it is, but I shall persevere <_<

[Rayden]

Cadyr isn't it possible to set all damage inflicted to the unit to 0 as long as the shield is active. If the shieldHp < damageOfShot -> damageOfShot - shieldHp

[Caydr]

Sure, and that'd be a perfectly good solution if all you wanted was an invincible shield. But what if you want a weapon which damages the shield until finally it cracks and the unit is vulnerable (ie, every usage of a shield in every sci-fi)

[Rayden]

eerm ... you missunderstand me .. i thought you can retrieve shield hp in unit script. In that case you can always track the current status of shield and therefore the damage on the unit itself.

[Drone_Fragger]

Use dirty hax to do it.

[Neddie]

Use dirty hax to do it.

Is that your answer to everything?

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Drone_Fragger: Use dirty hax to get one!

[Rayden]

Btw. does this answer mean .. "yes it could be possible" or "no it has to be patched"?

[Guessmyname]

It would be nice if, instead of blocking a projectile, the shield reduced the damage it did whilst active, either by a fixed variable or a percentage. (possible with scripting I know, but still)

On a more grafical note: if the colour for shield when it's high or low on health is zero, can it be set to invisible? (So that we can have shields fade out as they lose health)
Also: Flickering shields!

[Rayden]

+1

.. and transparent impact decals on shields :)

[Fanger]

not only that stuff but we need shields that have specifiable armor classes..! atm it uses default dmg which is unacceptable if you want to make differentiated shields of any sort!