KAI v0.11

krogothe · Post by **krogothe** » 19 Jun 2006, 16:25

This is a test release for stability and speed. ANY gameplay/performance related suggestions or bug reports will be utterly ignored . Theres thousands of things to do still and due to the extreme amounts of testing i am likely to know about all issues you might discover, and even if it werent so there are many priorities ahead of them.

It sucks, youve been warned beforehand :D, im aware of all those problems and some much more severe ones, and while i appreaciate the goodwill but this is not yet the time for gameplay improvements.

Sgt Doom · Post by **Sgt Doom** » 19 Jun 2006, 17:37

Meh, does anyone else get desktop crashes?
It doesn't suck playing for me., it just crashes to destop approximately 0 minutes in-game with unhandled exception errors.
EDIT: I'm off to do a clean reinstall, let's see if it works.

submarine · Post by **submarine** » 19 Jun 2006, 19:05

i had my first aai vs kai matches and im really impressed, worked stable for me so far (one crash) and its really a hard opponent for aai. at the beginning (with fresh learning files) aai didnt stand a chance, now it seems to get better but kai defeats aai ~70% of the time :)

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 19 Jun 2006, 19:40

The KAI that handed my ass to me repetedly in EE? SWEET!!!

Sgt Doom · Post by **Sgt Doom** » 19 Jun 2006, 19:45

Still crashes even with a clean install. When there's more than 2 bots it crashes.

On normal maps I last much longer without crashes, but that bot is really damn tough to beat, when they've finished beating each other up, the last one owns me, even though he's just been in battle :/

submarine · Post by **submarine** » 19 Jun 2006, 19:57

question: it always says "ai enabled cheating" - is kai a cheating ai? how can i disable cheating?

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 19 Jun 2006, 20:13

iirc you can't that's why I love kai. It's not one of these bullcrap ai's that tries to play like a "human" and instead Kai just concentrates on beating the everloving shit out of you. Bloodthirsty AI anyone?

You wanna play humans get online, if you wanna play an AI then play an AI.

AF · Post by AF » 19 Jun 2006, 20:15

The ai has enabled cheating comes up as soon as an AI tries to retrieve the ai cheat interface, regardless of whether it gets used. You can see the message when you use XE9, even tho XE9 doesnt cheat unless you issue the .aicheat command.

krogothe · Post by **krogothe** » 19 Jun 2006, 20:46

KAI maphacks. Its always been a planned feature (it was me who asked for it to work on AIs in first place

). I dont plan to add resource hacks however, since it would be lowering it to a script, so youll have to wait if you really want it

I know the cause of most of the KAI crashes reported by now (keep checking back the first post for status on bugs), so they will get fixed as we have time to organize the SVN and such. if you spot any patterns to crashes let me know!

AF · Post by AF » 19 Jun 2006, 20:48

SVN? Is that a hint that this is going to be opensource in the semi near future?

krogothe · Post by **krogothe** » 19 Jun 2006, 20:49

No, its just means you have organized competition

AF · Post by AF » 19 Jun 2006, 20:50

It aint fair though that a guy who singlehandedly takes on all the other AI's with limited internet access and low computer resources, should face a 3 man team with no internet problems or apparent computer issues.

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 19 Jun 2006, 20:51

krogothe wrote:No, its just means you have organized competition

awww... KAI takes after its father

krogothe · Post by **krogothe** » 19 Jun 2006, 20:53

AF wrote:It aint fair though that a guy who singlehandedly takes on all the other AI's with limited internet access and low computer resources, should face a 3 man team with no internet problems or apparent computer issues.

I wholeheartedly agree, life is a bitch!
(even though you have almost a year headstart, a dedicated buildtree maker and a broader player/tester base)

AF · Post by AF » 19 Jun 2006, 21:17

Broader playertester base?!?!?! AAI stole it!

Lindir only does XTA anyway, and we tend to disagree about things

krogothe · Post by **krogothe** » 19 Jun 2006, 21:20

krogothe wrote:I wholeheartedly agree, life is a bitch!

Now lets get on topic!

Bad_Dude · Post by **Bad_Dude** » 19 Jun 2006, 22:08

I would suggest that all AI guys work on a single killer AI that is quite stable, then if they wanted to part ways, they could start with the stable AI and build to their like.

Firenu · Post by **Firenu** » 19 Jun 2006, 22:16

found and fixed the crash when kai is allied with something.
had to do with ai->cb->GetFriendlUnits(..) and assuming they were mine

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 19 Jun 2006, 22:17

Bad_Dude wrote:I would suggest that all AI guys work on a single killer AI that is quite stable, then if they wanted to part ways, they could start with the stable AI and build to their like.

AI coders are territorial animals, it ain't gonna happen.

krogothe · Post by **krogothe** » 19 Jun 2006, 22:22

Bad_Dude wrote:I would suggest that all AI guys work on a single killer AI that is quite stable, then if they wanted to part ways, they could start with the stable AI and build to their like.

As jesus said, blessed are the children in their naivety and innocence!

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