Absolute Annihilation 1.5

espylaub · Post by **espylaub** » 16 Jun 2006, 21:54

I found the Leejen's LOS appallingly short for a scout unit. I built a few in 1.48, when the Voyeur was missing, but I found them ultimately useless. The sight range is really too short. I mean, you're not going to send them into an enemy base to waste them, spybots can do that better without getting killed. I wanted the Leejen to support long range bots, you know, group them with morties and it's sight range will show the morties what to shoot at. But now that the Voyeur is back, I'm not sure what the Leejen could be used for at all.

Except suicide bombings.

But I haven't tried that yet.

FireCrack · Post by **FireCrack** » 16 Jun 2006, 22:03

I cannot count how many times i've won a game just because I rushed to air early and used 6 atlases to airdrop a squad of peewees/thuds in the back of an enemy base....

Egarwaen · Post by **Egarwaen** » 16 Jun 2006, 22:17

Forboding Angel wrote:@ cabbage: nope, ak's do fuckall to exploiters and its really quite uncool imo. THings like unit specific damage of scouts is just dumb. It would be more useful to give them a higher refire rate or higher damage and faster turnrate. That way, you must be dedicated to taking it out cause 3-5 ak's or peewees probably isn't going to cut it.

Check the changelog. After a bunch of people bitching at me for five pages because I kept providing math demonstrating how rediculously over-efficient Exploiters were even compared to other units with anti-raider armor, Caydr just dropped the anti-raider armor.

Machiosabre · Post by **Machiosabre** » 16 Jun 2006, 22:21

Forboding Angel wrote: @ cabbage: nope, ak's do fuckall to exploiters and its really quite uncool imo. THings like unit specific damage of scouts is just dumb. It would be more useful to give them a higher refire rate or higher damage and faster turnrate. That way, you must be dedicated to taking it out cause 3-5 ak's or peewees probably isn't going to cut it.

I sent 20 ak's at a lv1 exploiter the other day and lost all my ak's with hardly any noticeable damage to the expoiter. That was really, really, annoying.

antiraider defence got removed already

check 1.5
e: ah beat me to it

Comp1337 · Post by **Comp1337** » 16 Jun 2006, 22:39

Give the leejen a crawling bomb blast, but only if it is selfdestructed, and give it a 10-15 sec timer?

Pxtl · Post by **Pxtl** » 16 Jun 2006, 22:56

I just got the name. leejen. Reckless kbot that runs into combat unarmed.

:p

*sigh*

Cabbage · Post by **Cabbage** » 16 Jun 2006, 23:12

Ah i thought i saw changing armed mexes to a normal armour class or whatever in the last changelog.

anyway...

Forboding angel Wrote:

20 ak's at a lv1 exploiter the other day and lost all my ak's with hardly any noticeable damage to the expoiter.

Thats either a lie or you sent them at it one by one, it takes half that number of peewees/A.K's to take out an exploiter if they attack as a group.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 16 Jun 2006, 23:18

I've taken exploiters with nine AKs and ten Peewees, respectively.

I guess what I'm really saying here is that Cabbage is right. Now, if he hadn't kicked my ass less than ten minutes ago...

Cabbage · Post by **Cabbage** » 16 Jun 2006, 23:19

Machio Wrote:

antiraider defence got removed already Rolling Eyes check 1.5

Ahh in that case, a fair few less than 10 is should be needed

Cabbage · Post by **Cabbage** » 16 Jun 2006, 23:20

neddiedrow Wrote:

I guess what I'm really saying here is that Cabbage is right. Now, if he hadn't kicked my ass less than ten minutes ago...

Egarwaen · Post by **Egarwaen** » 16 Jun 2006, 23:29

Cabbage wrote:Ahh in that case, a fair few less than 10 is should be needed

Well, take whatever you need to kill an LLT (on open ground, if you know where it is... Four?) and double it, as the Exploiter has twice the HP. So still eight-ish?

Of course, that's assuming there aren't any other things with guns lingering nearby.

Kixxe · Post by **Kixxe** » 17 Jun 2006, 00:04

Btw, when was the last time you saw someone build level 1 vechile factory as first fac and succed with it?

I don't know why, but for some reason vechiles (espeacly core) get pwned like nothing aginst K-bots!

Day · Post by **Day** » 17 Jun 2006, 00:05

erm, about the Fidos, they are currently insane, small packs of fidos can beat almost anything,

they could use a nerf, as in more buildtime or less HP

Cabbage · Post by **Cabbage** » 17 Jun 2006, 00:14

just more build time imo

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 17 Jun 2006, 00:25

Fido: 50 less HP, 5% longer buildtime. Done. Gotta post this new version quick, since 1.5 will crash with .72.

Soulless1 · Post by **Soulless1** » 17 Jun 2006, 00:29

gogogo, i wanna test the new version with my favourite mod

DoubleNeg · Post by **DoubleNeg** » 17 Jun 2006, 00:29

if anyone can hack out a quick release Caydr, I know it's you.

Cabbage · Post by **Cabbage** » 17 Jun 2006, 00:29

lol i thought that said 50% less HP for a second

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Jun 2006, 00:51

Cabbage wrote:Ah i thought i saw changing armed mexes to a normal armour class or whatever in the last changelog.

anyway...

Forboding angel Wrote:
20 ak's at a lv1 exploiter the other day and lost all my ak's with hardly any noticeable damage to the expoiter.
Thats either a lie or you sent them at it one by one, it takes half that number of peewees/A.K's to take out an exploiter if they attack as a group.

I'm guessing it was 1.48 and I didn't realize. Sorry about that.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 17 Jun 2006, 01:10

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