feature request

Dead.Rabit · Post by **Dead.Rabit** » 02 Jun 2006, 13:01

ok so ive been absent from ta spring for a while... a long long while.. missed the new gui coming in and all this stuff (still trying to figure out what all the stats are on the end game screen...)

but here is the feature that i've thaught up... its still very dificult to get the most firepower out of your units.. and against porcing players it becomes very difficult indeed...

im unsure what the current big project is for the devs.. last i checked (a few months back) it was the gui and linux.

but heres my request all the same. i was playing shogun: total war the other day n was wondering if the same unit/squad system could be used in TA spring?

if when the units came together they lined up and marched forward.. wouldnt this be better for lag and the like? aswell as making units like tanks and the plasma kbots work effectively.. at the moment the short range kbots (zeus & pyro) make the most of the swarming n too often kick asss...

on a sleightly different note.. how is it physically possible to make such large maps? recently released the 0.1 version of my 20 x 20 map at only 400kb with no tiling at all... all beit the texture was just rendered clouds (snow map) what is it that makes the maps soo large?

DR

maybe for requests that people will flame i should get a different account to remain annonymous... but .... =/

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 02 Jun 2006, 13:11

Yes! Let's complicate the pathfinding system even more!

Sorry, but we need to sort out the pathfinding system before we start adding things to it

Das Bruce · Post by **Das Bruce** » 02 Jun 2006, 13:12

That would be horrible, splash damage would pwn j00.

Dead.Rabit · Post by **Dead.Rabit** » 02 Jun 2006, 13:17

this is a way to fix the pathfinding system... lots of units follow 1 path instead of 20...

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 02 Jun 2006, 13:23

Bruce is right. Artillery would shoot the crap out of you if you went single file

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 02 Jun 2006, 15:10

Single File????!!

Right click + drag FTFW!

Warlord Zsinj · Post by **Warlord Zsinj** » 02 Jun 2006, 15:33

Actually, because of Spring's temperamental friendly fire rules, single file is the most efficient attack formation in Spring.

Are you playing Shogun on XP? I thought had serious problems when playing on XP?

knorke · Post by **knorke** » 02 Jun 2006, 16:01

still trying to figure out what all the stats are on the end game screen...

move the mouse over the descriptions like MMPM or whatever, there are tool tips just as with units

The "get to one point before marching" might sometimes be useful, but how does the game know when and when not.
Its easier to give two commands:
1) "all get here"
2) "move out"

what is it that makes the maps soo large?

I think its the large texture.
My testmap had an all-green ms-paint texture and was < 0.5 MB although the size was 16x16 or something. The map-compiler does probally compress it.

mongus · Post by **mongus** » 03 Jun 2006, 03:29

watch at the videos in download section.

Nottice something?

well the units move smoothly, in formattion, even waiting for slower units sometimes...

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 03 Jun 2006, 03:40

mongus wrote:watch at the videos in download section.

Nottice something?

well the units move smoothly, in formattion, even waiting for slower units sometimes...

Huh?

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 03 Jun 2006, 09:00

This is a terrible idea. You don't want your units moving all to one spot and then marching single file. Just set two WP if you do, I want the extra control provided with the current system.

Rusher · Post by **Rusher** » 03 Jun 2006, 16:44

How about settings attack points and letting 2 armies attack at the same time? Yes I made up this idea

(Would make rushing with scouts even more fun

)

mongus · Post by **mongus** » 03 Jun 2006, 17:05

video13 and .. video8 (naval battle video) show formation movement, quite smooth, faster units wait for slower ones.

AF · Post by AF » 03 Jun 2006, 17:15

Rusher wrote:How about settings attack points and letting 2 armies attack at the same time? Yes I made up this idea (Would make rushing with scouts even more fun )

No you didnt you took it from the supcom video, it's a military term called synchronization, making forces meet at the same position at the same time...

Dead.Rabit · Post by **Dead.Rabit** » 04 Jun 2006, 01:20

oh no actually that was a very long winded way to say i want my troops to line up.. i know u can do it with the draging but when 2 units meet 1 moves out of the way.. tramendously cocking up the line... if that could be fixed i'd also be happy...

but atm the best way to get all my units into a line is management 1 by 1.
line formation is good. has several advantags

firstly all units can shoot. which they normally cant.. exceptions to this rule are artillery type units..

2nd reason is if 1 of your units gets shot down.. it doesnt block the way.. many a time 1 unit gets shot down trapping 2 or even 3 behind it =]
D.R

Egarwaen · Post by **Egarwaen** » 04 Jun 2006, 01:41

AF wrote:No you didnt you took it from the supcom video, it's a military term called synchronization, making forces meet at the same position at the same time...

And you can use the ETA Group AI to do it yourself.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 04 Jun 2006, 03:10

Dead.Rabit wrote:oh no actually that was a very long winded way to say i want my troops to line up.. i know u can do it with the draging but when 2 units meet 1 moves out of the way.. tramendously cocking up the line... if that could be fixed i'd also be happy...

but atm the best way to get all my units into a line is management 1 by 1.
line formation is good. has several advantags

firstly all units can shoot. which they normally cant.. exceptions to this rule are artillery type units..

2nd reason is if 1 of your units gets shot down.. it doesnt block the way.. many a time 1 unit gets shot down trapping 2 or even 3 behind it =]
D.R

The idea you posted wouldn't fix that at all, but I totally agree with you there, creating formations sould be easier then it is because units that get there early continuously get knocked out of place by newcomers.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 04 Jun 2006, 04:18

actually just killing the damn unit pushing would help a lot.

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