..:: New Maps - Delta Siege V10 ::..

IceXuick · Post by **IceXuick** » 17 May 2006, 14:29

Neuralize wrote:One of the duos has it's textures all messed up. The tiles get all garbled and blah.

Damn, you're right!! I've tested and tested, but in final tests with the recompiling to fit the 50 meg, the DeltaSiege Duo got fragmented, cause it the original was recompiled at a higher compression setting! And i forgot to test the duo with this!

I will have to re-release this one asap! I am compiling as i type this.

sorry for this inconvenience, but original and Rev can be played for now...

I'll let you guys know when you can re-download it with all maps working.

IceXuick · Post by **IceXuick** » 17 May 2006, 14:39

NOiZE wrote:Why didn't you use the -e function of mapconv... the filesize could have been 16,7 MB ....

But it all looks Awesome!!

maybe wind could be a bit better

Well i DID use the -e function, and thought this would happen aswell, but apparently this doesn't work all the way, because all tiles are mirrored in the duo variants, and therefor don't have the same orientation. My guess is that it uses a little less then half of the original tiles, and needs to add the other half to them. Strangly Duo and Duo Rev are the same size, while Duo rev uses the tiles from Duo, and therefor should be a very small file size. How this isn't so, i don't know, Maybe it will work with my recompile now...

Cheesecan · Post by **Cheesecan** » 17 May 2006, 14:58

Wow this is definately your best map(s) to date, looks great man!

Cabbage · Post by **Cabbage** » 17 May 2006, 15:13

Its hawt! All that needs to be said really :p

IceXuick · Post by **IceXuick** » 17 May 2006, 15:19

Thx guys! im uploading V10 as we speak! hopefully it gets accepted through the auto upload, otherwise i have to wait for one of the admins of FU to upload it manually through ftp

If you want to play original or duo-rev you can play the version that's out now, but the duo map's texture is corrupted, and therefor V10 will be released.

IceXuick · Post by **IceXuick** » 17 May 2006, 15:52

Okay the V10 is released and ready for download on FU!

http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=showitem&ID=3191

** SORRY BUT YOU NEED TO DELETE YOUR OLDER VERSION OF DELTASIEGE **

This will be the file DeltaSiege.sd7 that is located in the Spring/maps folder.

The V10 version is DeltaSiegeV10.sd7, but the names of the maps are the same, so in order to keep your map list clean, you should delete the older one.

Sorry for this inconvenience, but i wanted to keep the mapname clear and the same. (no ultra long DeltaSiegeDuoRevV10.sd7 stuff)

Enjoy!

submarine · Post by **submarine** » 17 May 2006, 16:44

wow another of your great maps

since your maps are much more "natural" and not just basically flat with some hills like most ota maps i think i'll have to redo aai's placement of defensive buildings. just placing them at the border of its base will not be very efficient on your maps, i'm thinking about a way to implement some more flexible def. building placement

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 May 2006, 16:53

ok ice... life tip:

When you ahve a map pack and you need toupdate one of the maps. Change the filenames of the smf's and smd's to reflect a new verson I.E. duo-v01.smf/smd is now duo-v02.smf/smd

etc. That way you won't have sync problems.

Download canyon trio for a working example

You honestly think everyone reads these forums?

IceXuick · Post by **IceXuick** » 17 May 2006, 17:43

Yes forboding, normally i always do this, but i did not wat a DeltaSiegeDuoRevV10.sd7 ultra long file/map name. I do know its a bit of a burdain.. and i should have renamed it to something else or so.. Won't happen again. But it was only online for 8 hours orso, and older release has been deleted.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 May 2006, 18:11

arugh

the archive name does not matter! only the smf name matters! Look at the map list in the battle room, notice the .smf after each one?

the archive could be suckit.sd7 and the maps would still show up the same.

BigSteve · Post by **BigSteve** » 17 May 2006, 18:12

HOT DAMN!! If this here aint the best godamn lookin map I ever seen then I'm a bearded gnome!

good work!

wizard8873 · Post by **wizard8873** » 17 May 2006, 20:22

nice map. just played delta siege and must say that its great. still have to try the other two out and that one a few more times but its nice to have a map where everything can be used.

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 17 May 2006, 21:05

I'm afraid I'd have to side with Forboding Angle on this one. Every version of any map needs to have a unique name.
Perhaps because you changed versions so quickly it may not matter in this particular case... but everyone loses if there are mislabeled maps floating around.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 May 2006, 22:38

FizWizz wrote:I'm afraid I'd have to side with Forboding Angle on this one. Every version of any map needs to have a unique name.
Perhaps because you changed versions so quickly it may not matter in this particular case... but everyone loses if there are mislabeled maps floating around.

ANGLE?

Wow, now my feelings are hurt

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 17 May 2006, 22:39

IceXuick wrote:Finally after alot of testing, refining and testing again, Delta Siege is ready!

Zin om een biertje te pakken

Ik weet niet waar in NL je uithangt?

PauloMorfeo · Post by **PauloMorfeo** » 17 May 2006, 23:29

Forboding Angel wrote:... Change the filenames of the smf's and smd's to reflect a new verson I.E. duo-v01.smf/smd is now duo-v02.smf/smd
...

Won't that break the map? Making them ├é┬½be├é┬╗ without textures, with just a plain redish texture? For all i know, the name must be set when compiling.

Anyway, i really like the idea of making those 3 versions. And they are all very interesting map formats.
Only thing is, since you were going to do that, we should have focused the eforts on the metal map aiming at a confortable 3v3 for the 20x10 one, making it fit confortably a huge 6v6 with the doubled versions, instead of aimining it at 4v4 with possible 5v5 for the 20v10 one and way too much metal for 2v2s or 1v1s (doubled versions metaled for 8v8~10v10, is .. too much).

Anyway, the map is out and i am talking without actually having it tested. Although i don't know when i will have the chance for it, i will try.

I really don't say this often. Good work!

IceXuick · Post by **IceXuick** » 18 May 2006, 00:03

Well, the 20x10 is already no small map. I've spectated two 3vs3 games, and as the game was very interesting, probably due to the fact that there is enough metal to hold a 5vs5, and so that there was enough for an action packed game.

The larger versions have double ammount of metal patches, but they only give 70% metal, which means it still is playable for 4vs4 - 5vs5. I also have spectated the rev version, with 4 vs 4, went very well concerning the metal income. I must confess the players expanded quite slow, so maybe with more agressive players, it will prove to have too much metal too soon.

If this is so, i can adjust this, and set the metal income to 50% on the double versions. And also, if anyone wants to, i could make a DeltaSiege Light version as well, that also has a reduction in metal output, to make it good suitable for 2v2 or 3vs3.

Let me know what your playtesting results in! I'd be happy to do a V10 release, that fixes probable problems like this.

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 18 May 2006, 05:46

Forboding Angel wrote:
FizWizz wrote:I'm afraid I'd have to side with Forboding Angle on this one. Every version of any map needs to have a unique name.
Perhaps because you changed versions so quickly it may not matter in this particular case... but everyone loses if there are mislabeled maps floating around.
ANGLE?

Wow, now my feelings are hurt

whoops!

Surely you can let it slide this once

I can't even count the number of times people have called me Fizz, or fizzwizz, or fizwiz, when I *clearly* spell my name with one 'z' in Fiz, and two 'z''s in Wizz. And they never capitalize both the 'F' and the 'W' either

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 18 May 2006, 05:50

Well I'm sure if someone misspells your name enough, Fizz, you could bring the wrath of Clan Ghost Bear on their heads!

Oh and Ice. This map is fan-friggen-tackulirific!

Not that I can play much, as I have no game privileges on the week days (its a long story that involves a over eager and incompetent Geometry Teacher, a lot of duck tape and one over coordinated ferret).

Decimator · Post by **Decimator** » 18 May 2006, 05:54

PauloMorfeo wrote:
Forboding Angel wrote:... Change the filenames of the smf's and smd's to reflect a new verson I.E. duo-v01.smf/smd is now duo-v02.smf/smd
...
Won't that break the map? Making them ├é┬½be├é┬╗ without textures, with just a plain redish texture? For all i know, the name must be set when compiling.

Anyway, i really like the idea of making those 3 versions. And they are all very interesting map formats.
Only thing is, since you were going to do that, we should have focused the eforts on the metal map aiming at a confortable 3v3 for the 20x10 one, making it fit confortably a huge 6v6 with the doubled versions, instead of aimining it at 4v4 with possible 5v5 for the 20v10 one and way too much metal for 2v2s or 1v1s (doubled versions metaled for 8v8~10v10, is .. too much).

Anyway, the map is out and i am talking without actually having it tested. Although i don't know when i will have the chance for it, i will try.

I really don't say this often. Good work!

No, the only file whose name must not be changed is the smt file.

Spring RTS Engine

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