..:: New Map - Desert Triad OTA ::..

IceXuick · Post by **IceXuick** » 09 May 2006, 13:06

Desert Triad is released. This version has the same metal layout as the original. If there is more animo for a second release with different metal distribution plz say so. For all the others, Have fun:

Download here:

http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=showitem&ID=3135

ice out.

NOiZE · Post by **NOiZE** » 09 May 2006, 13:09

Sweet !

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 09 May 2006, 14:53

Man Ice, you are a machine. Great work once again.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 09 May 2006, 15:18

I like the lighter shade on this one.

Great work.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 09 May 2006, 16:17

metal in the middle kinda ruins it.

The first retard to put a comm in the middle is gonna win. In EE they won't even get used, because no one will be able to hold that ground.

DO you realize that by putting the metal in the middle you effectively focus the battle there and mostly if not all there? You might as well not have the extra space on the sides because it's not going to get used.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 09 May 2006, 16:22

Mabey it should be Geo's in the middle?

AF · Post by AF » 09 May 2006, 16:26

Maybe it should just be the way it was in OTA

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 09 May 2006, 16:30

That works too.

IceXuick · Post by **IceXuick** » 09 May 2006, 17:43

Forboding Angel wrote:metal in the middle kinda ruins it.

The first retard to put a comm in the middle is gonna win. In EE they won't even get used, because no one will be able to hold that ground.

DO you realize that by putting the metal in the middle you effectively focus the battle there and mostly if not all there? You might as well not have the extra space on the sides because it's not going to get used.

Isn't clear now that this is an OTA map? I thought this was enough spoken about. I did't PUT them there, it's a remake :D. And i guess you also haven't read Warlords post about the map. He knows what he's talking about.

When i've got time, i'll make the RM version!

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 09 May 2006, 17:51

Nicely done remake, I hope to try it out soon.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 09 May 2006, 18:43

IceXuick wrote:
Forboding Angel wrote:metal in the middle kinda ruins it.

The first retard to put a comm in the middle is gonna win. In EE they won't even get used, because no one will be able to hold that ground.

DO you realize that by putting the metal in the middle you effectively focus the battle there and mostly if not all there? You might as well not have the extra space on the sides because it's not going to get used.
Isn't clear now that this is an OTA map? I thought this was enough spoken about. I did't PUT them there, it's a remake :D. And i guess you also haven't read Warlords post about the map. He knows what he's talking about.

When i've got time, i'll make the RM version!

Ok, ya know. I've been very nice to people about their maps because I've taken a lot of crap in the past for some of mine. Generally If I don't care for someone's map I just won't post.

Well I think I'm changing that of this moment.

An ota map? Ya ok great argument. The map had bad gameplay in ota and it will have as bad of gameplay in spring. The resource layout IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WHile I respect warlords comments, he does not know enough about mapping or how correct mapping affects gameplay to really be stating an opinion (no offense warlord).

2. Every map (except for moon and this one, that I have played) you have done so far has a REALLY BAD resource layout. I played center rock once. And all of us on teamspeak decided not to play it again because the resource and actual layout had serious issues.

Digsite, another bad metal layout.

Proper resource layout is CRITICAL. Jesus. You don't hyave to do it just like me, ffs you can have originality, but ffs have some thought about your metal layout instead of "oh well a patch would look cool here" or "HEY I got a GREAT idea, LETS PUT IT ALL IN THE CENTER FTW!!!11eleven".

Got a tip for you. Rush for the center maps SUCK. Some asshole retard always sticks his comm in the middle and screws the game over for everyone.

That said, I loved the terrain layout for triad in ota, and I think it is an excellent terrain for 3way in spring. However, you ahve managed to completely destroy what could be good gameplay by crappy resource layout.

I'm getting really upset at people who PUT NO THOUGHT into their resource structure.

You produce the beautiful maps, then then it all goes downhill from there.

Meh, I'm done.

Dragon45 · Post by **Dragon45** » 09 May 2006, 18:48

Ice, don't listen to forboding. He's a little.... PMSy.

I do thinkt hat switching the resouce layouts around (so that the little mesas or whatever had the metal and the metal wasnt in the middle so much), but for a remake. It's nice sometimes to see an OTA map (beautifully!) redone in th Spring engine, warts and all. :)

But for a remake, rezz dsitribution might wanna be a little less centro-centric (?) HA!

Dragon45 · Post by **Dragon45** » 09 May 2006, 18:50

And I think that Foreboding's jsut mad because Ice stole his thunder.

And Ice is nicer, to boot!

NOiZE · Post by **NOiZE** » 09 May 2006, 18:50

IMO, forboding you are wrong on this one....

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 09 May 2006, 19:02

Dragon45 wrote:And I think that Foreboding's jsut mad because Ice stole his thunder.

Hardly

And Ice is nicer, to boot!

Definately

IMO, forboding you are wrong on this one....

I disagree, but you tend to like the rush for the center stuff anyway, so that doesn't suprise me.

IceXuick · Post by **IceXuick** » 09 May 2006, 22:03

Well, i don't really know where this is all coming from. I'll try and reply in the best and clear way i can.

- metal placing is very important, and should not be considered as 'decoration' of the map. If you like to think that i place them because they look nice on that spot, you must do so.

- i don't know how one can 'destroy' a map, just by making a remake. It's just desert Triad from TA as i sais twice before.

- i find it funny that you and friends on teamspeak together decide not to play centerrock, while i've changed the metal layout twice (thanks to your own post asking me to change it.. did it get worse after that?).

- i must confess i haven't played Desert Triad that much, and therefor listened to Warlord. My guess is that he, and probably alot more players who played OTA, know this map, and play it for a reason. I didn't want to clutter with it for the OTA release.

- I'm always an ear for people that have critism they back up, and preferably when they also have somekind of solution offcourse

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this post is already three times the size i wanted it to be. I heard from more people that you help alot of people! Try to keep it that way, i like that! Make me a simple (could be done wihtin 5 min) metal layout for CenterRock.. Digsite?.. Or maybe you could tell me how you think about placing the metal, with which and how many factors you decide.

Lets keep it productive instead of what you starting here. It a waste of time and energy reading and reply-ing on these things.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 09 May 2006, 23:49

Btw, one reason it irritated me is the fact that I really liked this map in ota (minus the metal layout). I jsut thought the terrain was great for 3way.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 10 May 2006, 00:06

* am one of those people in teamspeak, I played your maps. J5mello was with me playing on your moon map the day it came out.

Forboding is mostly pissed with dragon45.

You guys should not be fighting I really wish ya'll would get along I think your contrasting styles make your maps just that much more interesting.

Compare and contrast:
You obviously have a knack for some wonderful height maps
(forboding has said this many times to me so I am not the only one who thinks it)
You also have a very vibrant and interesting style

Forboding has spectacular layouts and metal distribution
Forboding has some very realistic looking stuff

Now dragon45, he is an jerk he will continue to be an jerk. He is using you as a way to make pointless and rude comments to forboding. To be honest, I detest his behavior because dragon45 is quite childish and often times in need of a slap in the face.

I think the two of you can learn from each other and make even better maps working off of each others talents. The work that the two of you can produce in FRIENDLY competition would be amazing.

-Smoth

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 10 May 2006, 01:07

A coauthered Forboding and IceXuick map would be really friggen cool!

If they didn't kill eachother first.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 10 May 2006, 01:08

well smoth, while you know I respect your opinion VERY much, I would like to point out that it's not really a competition unless I see something he did and wanna outdo him (havn't really reached that point yet).

It drives me nuts when I see something as super pretty as center rock and the metal distro sucks. It makes me wanna cut my heart out with a plastic knife or a rusty spork.

It just frustrates the living crap out of me. I wish he would form his own opinion about what would be good instead of expecting the community to actually be able to tell what constitutes a good map.

If oyu havn't noticed, speedmetal and comet catcher are 2 of the msot played maps.

Doesn't that tell you something?

Spring RTS Engine

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