Expand & Exterminate .155 Released!
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I was gonna wait till saturday, but then I was like hey... its my mod I can do what I want... so bam... Here it is peoples..
http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=showitem&ID=3051
LINK:^^
http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=showitem&ID=3051
LINK:^^
I love you right now fang^^Fanger wrote:I was gonna wait till saturday, but then I was like hey... its my mod I can do what I want... so bam... Here it is peoples..
http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=showitem&ID=3051
LINK:^^
aww, Ill have to wait till the morning.
it's getting late. I'm really hyped about E&E, and it'd better be good. If it ain't good after this hype... WellI
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Forboding Angel
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For the sake of all of us involved with the mod...
Please play it for a day or so before forming any real opinions please. Reason being is that the side are VERY different and there are a LOT of tactics FTW. So jsut because you got WTFPWNED!!! Please try a counter idea to that before saying that it is unbalanced.
URC players: Use terrain to your advantage. Line up your units!
GD players: Try to catch urc units bunched up and on flat terrain. Use air drops, they are the only way to get lv3 ANYWHERE quickly!
Use multi-pronged attacks!
Artillery is DEFINATELY FTW!
Don't try to porc/turtle, you'll only get wtfpwned.
If anyone thinks that a side is unbalanced to to x,y, or z unit... Challenge myself or deci to a game. We might be able to change your mind
Last and definately not least... HAVE FUN!!!
Please play it for a day or so before forming any real opinions please. Reason being is that the side are VERY different and there are a LOT of tactics FTW. So jsut because you got WTFPWNED!!! Please try a counter idea to that before saying that it is unbalanced.
URC players: Use terrain to your advantage. Line up your units!
GD players: Try to catch urc units bunched up and on flat terrain. Use air drops, they are the only way to get lv3 ANYWHERE quickly!
Use multi-pronged attacks!
Artillery is DEFINATELY FTW!
Don't try to porc/turtle, you'll only get wtfpwned.
If anyone thinks that a side is unbalanced to to x,y, or z unit... Challenge myself or deci to a game. We might be able to change your mind
Last and definately not least... HAVE FUN!!!
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raikitsune
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love you guys the day after the new computer arrives a shiney new mod to try it on 
trying for a few days or not, its is very clear how OP the stationary artillerys are (pamir and LRRL), they should be a lot more expensive and cost a lot more E to fire (+400 E income can easily support them and that costs peanuts). 3-4x more cost is in order i think. nerfing them just wouldnt look as cool but maybe a ROF reduction, whatever, as long as they are not so incredibly cost effective.
Another incredibly cost effective unit is the URC heavy reactor, its the cheapest energy you can get by a factor of 2 at least and its fairly resilient!
Another incredibly cost effective unit is the URC heavy reactor, its the cheapest energy you can get by a factor of 2 at least and its fairly resilient!
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Forboding Angel
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Forboding Angel
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Upload replays for the testers?? Look, i like you guys and the mod and all, but this is just friggin silly. What do you want me to show? A pamir doing backflips while peeling 7 bananas simultaneously?? You build the thing, as many as you can. It never stops firing provided you built radar and then you just sit back and watch in safety as the enemy base gets pummeled from miles away at a low cost. You dont need to get a replay, then take it to the board of approval of EE testers, you can just disagree with a good reason.Decimator wrote:I would ask that those who think something is unbalanced upload a replay, so one of the testers can take a look at it.
Tell you what, Ill just shut up about EE testing, and let the crowd decide whats best, its too much hassle trying to help.
And yes the mod rocks
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Forboding Angel
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Exactly. BTW you are the only one to complain about this...smoth wrote:They just want to see how it worked so they can help fang fix it. We all help him where we can.krogothe wrote: You dont need to get a replay, then take it to the board of approval of EE testers, you can just disagree with a good reason.
I played many games today and I did not see any balance issues. I played as GD and as URC, only lost one (damn teammates
).Krogothe, a replay would be really useful, that way we could all take a look at it and see exactly what the issue it. As it is, you are being rather vague as to what the issue is.
BTW air drops FTW! lol Air drops work everytime... Almost :D Folcan caught on and handed my transports asses to me
ftlNote to self... Don't put all my beans in one basket :D
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GrOuNd_ZeRo
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There are many articles covering mech technology in popular mechanics, unfortunatly most of these topics were discussed on either http://www.abovetopsecret.com and http://www.tadesigners.com (somewhere in the old forum I am guessing).
As for FTL, we might already have it if Aliens have crashed in '47 and we reversed engineered it...
Yes this sound far-fetched for sure, but there is some definite evidence that SOMETHING was covered up at Roswell that STILL hasn't seen the light of day.
Not to turn this into a UFOlogy/Conspiracy thread.
Ofcourse this is weak evidence, but in the conventional science field there is definite evidence that FTL travel is really possible in the near future, according to David Sereda (a UFO researcher but with a good view on science, I highly recommend watching "Evidence: The case for NASA UFO's", this deals with strange objects seen on the NASA videos, he claims that matter vibrates faster at increased velocity, and at light speed, the frequency of matter changes and changes to energy, or something in that sense.
So those are things to considder, also, don't underestimate the ingenuity of humanity, remember that after the industrial revolution, we acheived flight (almost immediatly after it) and space flight about 50 years later and setting foot on the moon ~20 years after that.
In the near future humanity will set food on mars, probably in the next 15 years or so, and who knows what we acheive after that.
in 2000 I remember dutch scientist predicting that life-altering nano-technology will come around in about 15 years from then, and since we already are making many breakthroughs in nano-technology I don't really think this is implausible, nano-technology is also invisioned in the 2020 combat armor of the US army, if a soldier gets hit by a bullet he will be healed with this technology since the armor has nano-bots in it.
I suggest to do your own research since I have too little time to dig it all up for you but if I run acrossed one of these articles I will surely share it on a seperate thread in the off topic thread.
I also suggest to read popular mechanics and popular science, great stuff!
As for FTL, we might already have it if Aliens have crashed in '47 and we reversed engineered it...
Yes this sound far-fetched for sure, but there is some definite evidence that SOMETHING was covered up at Roswell that STILL hasn't seen the light of day.
Not to turn this into a UFOlogy/Conspiracy thread.
Ofcourse this is weak evidence, but in the conventional science field there is definite evidence that FTL travel is really possible in the near future, according to David Sereda (a UFO researcher but with a good view on science, I highly recommend watching "Evidence: The case for NASA UFO's", this deals with strange objects seen on the NASA videos, he claims that matter vibrates faster at increased velocity, and at light speed, the frequency of matter changes and changes to energy, or something in that sense.
So those are things to considder, also, don't underestimate the ingenuity of humanity, remember that after the industrial revolution, we acheived flight (almost immediatly after it) and space flight about 50 years later and setting foot on the moon ~20 years after that.
In the near future humanity will set food on mars, probably in the next 15 years or so, and who knows what we acheive after that.
in 2000 I remember dutch scientist predicting that life-altering nano-technology will come around in about 15 years from then, and since we already are making many breakthroughs in nano-technology I don't really think this is implausible, nano-technology is also invisioned in the 2020 combat armor of the US army, if a soldier gets hit by a bullet he will be healed with this technology since the armor has nano-bots in it.
I suggest to do your own research since I have too little time to dig it all up for you but if I run acrossed one of these articles I will surely share it on a seperate thread in the off topic thread.
I also suggest to read popular mechanics and popular science, great stuff!
I demand that the commander gets one weapon of some kind, a plasma gun, mg, something ! Its helpless and weak right now, and thats rediculous.
The scout tank of the GD (MG-Version) is way too strong ! You can just overrun a URC base with these.
The socut of the URC has no weapon, needs a lot of micro to be effective, and provides little defence for your advance.
There should be a floating energy generator. Subs are too strong.
GD seems stronger than URC, those medium tanks are ownage, and they get em faster than URC gets medium mechs, because you can run GD´s econ AND its defense on MEXES ALONE, if the map permits it (i.e: there are metal spots that allow the mexes to cover eachother with their guns).
An advancing URC player has to rely on its weaker units or build expensive immobile towers.
While the armed mexes of GD, do both provide ressources, AND secure their own position, thus effectively expanding your base, the cloaked mexes of the URC are USELESS, since everybody knows where the spots are and just forces fire there.
Cloaking provides no benefit for a mex.
Instead, give URC mexes that JAM their surrounding area, effetively creating a staging area as you advance.
In short: GD seems overpowerd vs URC.
Give us a working NI !
The scout tank of the GD (MG-Version) is way too strong ! You can just overrun a URC base with these.
The socut of the URC has no weapon, needs a lot of micro to be effective, and provides little defence for your advance.
There should be a floating energy generator. Subs are too strong.
GD seems stronger than URC, those medium tanks are ownage, and they get em faster than URC gets medium mechs, because you can run GD´s econ AND its defense on MEXES ALONE, if the map permits it (i.e: there are metal spots that allow the mexes to cover eachother with their guns).
An advancing URC player has to rely on its weaker units or build expensive immobile towers.
While the armed mexes of GD, do both provide ressources, AND secure their own position, thus effectively expanding your base, the cloaked mexes of the URC are USELESS, since everybody knows where the spots are and just forces fire there.
Cloaking provides no benefit for a mex.
Instead, give URC mexes that JAM their surrounding area, effetively creating a staging area as you advance.
In short: GD seems overpowerd vs URC.
Give us a working NI !
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Forboding Angel
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I demand that the commander gets one weapon of some kind, a plasma gun, mg, something ! Its helpless and weak right now, and thats rediculous.
Hell no.
The scout tank of the GD (MG-Version) is way too strong ! You can just overrun a URC base with these.
The socut of the URC has no weapon, needs a lot of micro to be effective, and provides little defence for your advance.
Oh please, plasma bots pwn scout tanks.
There should be a floating energy generator. Subs are too strong.
Subs aren't too strong, try using gunboats in combination with your ships. Floating energy will not be added due to the fact that ships are there for support, not for main battle units.
GD seems stronger than URC, those medium tanks are ownage, and they get em faster than URC gets medium mechs, because you can run GD´s econ AND its defense on MEXES ALONE, if the map permits it (i.e: there are metal spots that allow the mexes to cover eachother with their guns).
Heh, play me. I'll be happy to change your mind("OMFG Nerf plasma!"). Try lining up your units and mix missle bots in with them, you will do a lot better.
An advancing URC player has to rely on its weaker units or build expensive immobile towers.
While the armed mexes of GD, do both provide ressources, AND secure their own position, thus effectively expanding your base, the cloaked mexes of the URC are USELESS, since everybody knows where the spots are and just forces fire there.
Cloaking provides no benefit for a mex.
Instead, give URC mexes that JAM their surrounding area, effetively creating a staging area as you advance.
The urc mexes cloak and HAVE A BUILT IN JAMMER! Also, the decloak radius is so small on the mexes that even if your units bump into them they still won't decloak. URC can expand MUCH faster than gd. Try using air drops.
In short: GD seems overpowerd vs URC.
In short: You are very wrong. The sides are very balanced with each other, and lv 2 mechs may not be super huge, but if you line them up they are devistating.
Give us a working NI!
In time...
Andreask, play me tonight, you be GD and I will be URC, I garuantee you, by the end of the game you will be thinking that URC is overpowered.
FFS guys, this is not TA, stop trying to play it like TA. The stupid little half ass tactics you use in TA most likely will not work, and the good tactics (like air drops) work wonderfully.
I swear, sometimes you guys remind me of 2 blind men in a fistfight. lol
Hell no.
The scout tank of the GD (MG-Version) is way too strong ! You can just overrun a URC base with these.
The socut of the URC has no weapon, needs a lot of micro to be effective, and provides little defence for your advance.
Oh please, plasma bots pwn scout tanks.
There should be a floating energy generator. Subs are too strong.
Subs aren't too strong, try using gunboats in combination with your ships. Floating energy will not be added due to the fact that ships are there for support, not for main battle units.
GD seems stronger than URC, those medium tanks are ownage, and they get em faster than URC gets medium mechs, because you can run GD´s econ AND its defense on MEXES ALONE, if the map permits it (i.e: there are metal spots that allow the mexes to cover eachother with their guns).
Heh, play me. I'll be happy to change your mind("OMFG Nerf plasma!"). Try lining up your units and mix missle bots in with them, you will do a lot better.
An advancing URC player has to rely on its weaker units or build expensive immobile towers.
While the armed mexes of GD, do both provide ressources, AND secure their own position, thus effectively expanding your base, the cloaked mexes of the URC are USELESS, since everybody knows where the spots are and just forces fire there.
Cloaking provides no benefit for a mex.
Instead, give URC mexes that JAM their surrounding area, effetively creating a staging area as you advance.
The urc mexes cloak and HAVE A BUILT IN JAMMER! Also, the decloak radius is so small on the mexes that even if your units bump into them they still won't decloak. URC can expand MUCH faster than gd. Try using air drops.
In short: GD seems overpowerd vs URC.
In short: You are very wrong. The sides are very balanced with each other, and lv 2 mechs may not be super huge, but if you line them up they are devistating.
Give us a working NI!
In time...
Andreask, play me tonight, you be GD and I will be URC, I garuantee you, by the end of the game you will be thinking that URC is overpowered.
FFS guys, this is not TA, stop trying to play it like TA. The stupid little half ass tactics you use in TA most likely will not work, and the good tactics (like air drops) work wonderfully.
I swear, sometimes you guys remind me of 2 blind men in a fistfight. lol