any way to get the experience value in the script?

[Optimus Prime]

Is there any way to have a function like get_exp so that we can check the experience of a unit? I would need such a function.

And i remember that in the past you told me, that in a futuer version it would be possible, to create our own exp system (for example add special prenames like general or veteran with extra damage or speed boost). Is something like this still in discussion, or is it to difficult?

thx

[Gnomre]

I *think* they implemented VETERAN_LEVEL in one of the revisions, but I'm not sure off the top of my head. I think it was one of the TAK identifier things. No way to change the unit's display name though.

[Guessmyname]

There is a script thing to detect veteran status. Hold on a moment...

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Monitor()
	{
	var lastcheck, check;

	lastcheck = 0;
	check = 0;
	while(TRUE)
		{
		sleep 100; // a delay, so the engine doesn't choke.
		check = check + 1; // time the delay between shots
		if (firecheck != lastcheck) // if weapon has been fired...
			{
			if (check < 14) // change this number to 1/10 of reload
					// in weapon .tdf file.
				{
				// place changes to unit here, fex additional weapons,
				// ARMORED on, ACTIVATION on (radar/jamming), or just
				// more pieces on the model, for decoration.
				return(0); // kills the script after this happens.
				}
			check = 0; // "resets the clock" each time weapon is fired.
			}
		lastcheck = firecheck; // if the weapon is not fired, run the clock.
		}
	}

Create()
	{
	firecheck = 0;
	start-script Monitor();
	}

FirePrimary()
	{
	firecheck = !firecheck; // this signals "Monitor()" that the weapon has been fired.
	return(0);
	}

[Optimus Prime]

this script doesnt check if the weapon hits an enemy or not. So you can easily abuse it by shooting the ground. (if im right)
So i have to wait for a real implementation for that...

[Guessmyname]

I think you're wrong.

TA units reach veterancy level after 5 kills.

With each increment accuracy increases and reload times decrease.

This veterancy detection script checks the reloadtime, and detects when it has decreased because the unit has reached veteran level

[Archangel of Death]

*Digs into his changelog once again*

0.67b1
...
-COB support for Getting/Setting veteran level and unit speed.
The returned veteran level is unit experience multiplied by 100
...

I'm guessing the exact code would be

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GET VETERAN_LEVEL
SET VETERAN_LEVEL

[Optimus Prime]

whoa! That sounds cool :)
Have to make some test in the next days. Than i will post my result...
Thanks you two

[Argh]

Wait, wait, wait...

Does SET VETERAN_LEVEL actually work?

[Archangel of Death]

I imagine it is just as untested as GET/SET speed.

[kujeger]

I think you're wrong.

TA units reach veterancy level after 5 kills.

With each increment accuracy increases and reload times decrease.

This veterancy detection script checks the reloadtime, and detects when it has decreased because the unit has reached veteran level

Didn't someone dig around in the code and discover that experience doesen't affect accuracy?

[Argh]

EXPERIENCE IN SPRING DOES NOT AFFECT ACCURACY.

EXPERIENCE IN SPRING DOES NOT LEVEL AFTER 5 KILLS.

EXPERIENCE IN SPRING IS PER SUCCESSFUL ATTACK.

EXPERIENCE INCREASES A UNIT'S HITPOINTS.


Everybody clear now?

[SJ]

Experience affects accuracy among other things...

[FizWizz]

EXPERIENCE IN SPRING DOES AFFECT ACCURACY.

EXPERIENCE IN SPRING DOES NOT LEVEL AFTER 5 KILLS.

EXPERIENCE IN SPRING IS PER SUCCESSFUL ATTACK.

EXPERIENCE INCREASES A UNIT'S HITPOINTS.

Now everything's clear
To be a bit more specific about point three, experience is based on amount of damage done, right?

[Argh]

What?!? It affects accuracy, too? Given this is SJ telling me, I have to assume that's right.

That makes things extra interesting. I could make a unit with reeeeeally low hitpoints, then have the script bump Experience way up, and end up with an accurate shooter with non-insane hitpoints.

Oh, but wait... it gets more interesting than that. Given what I have seen in terms of how Spring handles accuracy, it clearly moves the origin of the shots around sometimes, not just the angle (I believe it turns the Piecenum named as the AimFromPrimary, but not visually)... any inaccuracy introduced via Experience might explain a lot of the problems people are having with units shooting each other.

So, if you want to have a mod that has ultra-accurate shooting, or shooting where any innaccuracy is introduced by the weapon... there's a solution, and you just need to scale everything appropriately. I guess my next question would be... is there a cap on this accuracy improvement, or is it some sort've scalar relationship, where it almost, but never quite equals one?

[SJ]

Experience only affects accuracy by scaling the accuracy and sprayangle parameters so it would probably be a lot easier to change these then messing with some default experience. The cap for accuracy improvement is 90% reduction of (in)accuracy (reached at infinite experience)

Spring shouldnt give shots any random position offset at the origin, if it does its a bug.

[Optimus Prime]

what about reloadtime.. ?