Spider Model

Sheekel · Post by **Sheekel** » 22 Apr 2006, 19:03

I found this image online, and have posted it in several other forums. My goal is to make a working version very similar to it.

Of course, that is very high poly and i lack the modelling skills to replicate it perfectly, but i gave it a shot. Can i get some suggestions as to what you think should be fixed?

Here is the first, low-detail version:

And here is the new, high-detail version: 2406 faces...too many?

Zenka · Post by **Zenka** » 22 Apr 2006, 20:04

Very nice!

Is it 2406 faces, or 2406 tris (triangels)?
if it's 2406 tris. It should be good. for a big units (like a buildog) aim for 2500 tris.

Sheekel · Post by **Sheekel** » 22 Apr 2006, 21:17

Im not sure if its triangles or faces...how do i tell? In 3DO builder it says 1527 faces, but in Rhino 3d it says ~2500. Here is an update, gave machine gun more room to rotate without "going through" the legs:

My uvmap is totally screwed up....i keep wanting to go back to 3DO. Does it matter where the parts are located on the UV map? Does it matter if my UV map is sort of crooked in the image editor? You can tell from the picture that the legs are sort of crooked:

FireCrack · Post by **FireCrack** » 23 Apr 2006, 00:45

The low and high detail versions look to disimilar.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 23 Apr 2006, 02:24

Use the high end! THE HIGH END!!

It looks uber-tottaly cool.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 23 Apr 2006, 03:16

The low and high detail models should be made to look similar. When spring has better LOD capabilites you'll be able to use both as part of the same model.

Sheekel · Post by **Sheekel** » 23 Apr 2006, 03:40

No, the low-detail one took about 5 minutes, the goal was to test some prototype scripts (i suck at scripts. they are the bane of my existance)

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 23 Apr 2006, 03:53

SwiftSpear wrote:The low and high detail models should be made to look similar. When spring has better LOD capabilites you'll be able to use both as part of the same model.

Really...I thought they look along the same lines. Not exact, but what do you expect...

Das Bruce · Post by **Das Bruce** » 23 Apr 2006, 05:09

Any sane designer would put the turret on top.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 23 Apr 2006, 05:12

Well...the...fragile...barrles need to be protected by the skintanium armour of the spiders main body.

And it looks cool!

FireCrack · Post by **FireCrack** » 23 Apr 2006, 05:40

Any sane designer would create a tracked/wheeled vehicle.

Flint · Post by **Flint** » 23 Apr 2006, 05:55

FireCrack wrote:Any sane designer would create a tracked/wheeled vehicle.

But this is so much more imposing.

-Great work by the way.

mongus · Post by **mongus** » 23 Apr 2006, 07:45

where is the spider from?

Gnomre · Post by **Gnomre** » 23 Apr 2006, 08:44

Sorry, but that UV map *blows*. You'll never be able to skin the model with that. It looks like you just selected each major piece and did a top-down planar map. There are a billion tutorials out there, find one for your program of choice and use it.

The model isn't that bad, but you could certainly still cut out some detail without losing any cool factor (especially if you do a good job skinning it). Just ditch the low poly one, it looks nothing like the better one and is damn ugly anyway.

Maelstrom · Post by **Maelstrom** » 23 Apr 2006, 08:48

Warp the leg armour bits a little so they are more pointed like the real one. You dont even have to add any extra polys/tris. Otherwise its looking good.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 23 Apr 2006, 09:21

FireCrack wrote:Any sane designer would create a tracked/wheeled vehicle.

Yeah, because we don't have hills, valleys, gradual slopes, sand or mountains that we need to cross?

Maelstrom · Post by **Maelstrom** » 23 Apr 2006, 09:43

neddiedrow wrote:
FireCrack wrote:Any sane designer would create a tracked/wheeled vehicle.
Yeah, because we don't have hills, valleys, gradual slopes, sand or mountains that we need to cross?

Thats why you need Whegs. Brilliant inventions. Basically legs attached to wheels, they allow things to reach quite high speeds, but are also able to climb steps half their height, sometimes more. But that discussion is for another day.

Sheekel · Post by **Sheekel** » 23 Apr 2006, 11:39

Gnome wrote:Sorry, but that UV map *blows*. You'll never be able to skin the model with that. It looks like you just selected each major piece and did a top-down planar map. There are a billion tutorials out there, find one for your program of choice and use it.

The model isn't that bad, but you could certainly still cut out some detail without losing any cool factor (especially if you do a good job skinning it). Just ditch the low poly one, it looks nothing like the better one and is damn ugly anyway.

I followed the tutorial done by Argh, im really struggling with it though

FireCrack · Post by **FireCrack** » 23 Apr 2006, 13:01

neddiedrow wrote:
FireCrack wrote:Any sane designer would create a tracked/wheeled vehicle.
Yeah, because we don't have hills, valleys, gradual slopes, sand or mountains that we need to cross?

Whegs, as maelstrom said, or just larger wheels/front of tracks.

How on earth would legs help on sand?

Dr.InfernO · Post by **Dr.InfernO** » 23 Apr 2006, 13:04

hey Sheekel, which sound do you use for your spider mech?
You really have an awesome model! :)

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