Continuous Planet Map Continued
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[K.B.] Napalm Cobra
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WHAT Vulcans are awsom and cool. Buzsaws look like ugly ferris wheels, while Vulacnas are giant machinguns. Also what about Dyson shpers and MegaDysons sphers. Oh right. A Dyson Shpher is a giant holow globe build around a star. By giant i mean Earth orbit giant. I mean engulphing mecurey, venus and earth in it size. Then anther shper resides in the Dyson Shpere, whitch is clear and holds the atmoshere for the people liveing inside it. The side effect of this would be Solor collectors would gather a large amount of energy from the abundent supplie of sunlingt, but metal collectos would only be on the hige ground. ( I mean if you drill down in a lower part of the sphere then it would go out into space. Also about space, will their be sound if they have a space map. Cause then the music could envelop you as you blast an enemy into a billion pices. Oh and a MegaSphere is gust a even bigger Dyson Sphere, like enveloiping the GALACTIC CORE!!! The only real difference bettweem both Dyson Spheres would be when you look up, insted of seeing a single star, you would see the vast beuitiful galactic core, where billions of stars creat a glowing nebulus jewl in space. But then again this would distract you from the dustruction of your enemys. (maby the MegaSphere would be a little too much for the graphics cards of the next few centuires. I mean theas structures give ME vertigo and i am facinited by mega achitecture like Ringworlds and Dyson Spheres and Cosmic Macironi (more impressive then it sounds)
No I hold that record, now a dyson sphere is a problem that would have to be solved through some wierd technology. Since there is no night and day in the sphere you have the dillemma of eternal sunlight and heat burning the surface to cinders. Also the inner surface of a dyson sphere is immense nevermind a mega dyson sphere. To create a world sized map in spring would require a huge array of super-computers now considering a dyson sphere could hold millions of times more surface space...... Also what about gravity? We'd either fall into the sun or the dyson sphere would have gravity plating that would never have enough power to run. A mega dyson sphere would simply collapse into the central blackhole drawing everything around it with it leading to the death of the galaxy leaving behind a supermassive black hole, not to mention that most stars in the galactic core are nearing the end of their life. If not the gravitational stresses on space-time would render the dyson sphere un-navigatable by any vessels or phenomena used to arrive at that point, aswell as creating immense heat incinerating all that land on it ontop of those burnt by the solar heat from the inside
Aswell as that the air inside the dyson sphere would turn to plasma near the centre rendering the atmosphere radioactive and unbreathable
Well the with Megashpere and the Dyson Shpere, the threoy gose as this
ONE):: If you need a Dyson Shpere, you can build it. I mean come on A SHPER AROUND A SUN!! You need a nigh on industructable building matireal, the capability to break down the entirety of Jupiters mass and rearange its componint atoms into what you need! So reson suggests that if you have colonised your star system to the hilt, and there is no way to break the FTL barrier, then youd need the billion world space of a Dyson Shperes. (also lets forget about the Mega Shpere, i thought about it and the splitting headach kept me up for a week)
TWO):: Youd have solor collectors every where, becasue the man who theiroised the idea up (Dyson something or other was his name), said that the only way a industral civilication can decreese its need for energy and resourses is by collapsing. So when you build a dyson shpere, its to get every last bit of energy out of the sun, so youd convert the heat, the solor power, the radiation, and any other crap that is flying out of the sun, to something usable. Also the heat would be raddeated out of the shell of the Shpere. Also one writer had a creepyish theiroy. Maby the "dust clouds" in the night sky are actualy spreading swarms of Dyson Shperes that cover the stars of the univers, so eventualy the entire night sky would be blotted out and insted you would pick up a huge wave of Infaread rafiation spreading out of trillions of dyson shperes.
Also for gravity would be made through spinning the damn thing. (but this might will cause a corrolis effect, whitch can be ingnored after you get used to it) Or you could plate the floor with nutronium (Nutron Star matireal) and that would be enough to pull every one down to the ground. (note: yod need to be carfull about the plateing thickness, cause too much nutronium would break your bones) Also higer G races that evolved on gass giants or something, can live in areas where the nutronium plateing is thicker so hecne more gravity. Now about ringworlds...
Ringworlds are like dyson shprers exept slightly less efficent (cause they dont entirly entrap the suns rays). But they have an interesting side ability. Thir rotational effect can be used to creat a huge magnect feild around the sun, then it could be controlled with generators, can be used to pinch hydrogen out of the Sun and then fire it down ward, makeing the sun your engian. That way you could fly a Ringworld! Once your sun runs out of fule, and you are Sunless, youd be going realy realy realy realy realy realy fast. Then you can use the magnectic feild of your ringworld to pinch intersteller hydrogen at teh center and make a slightly less giantic sun! That way you can drive your ringworld out of the galaxi. But then again the only reson to do this would be if the galacxi is gripped in a galactic disaster. Like the galaxi could be exploding (and it could hapin you know, we have pictures of it hapeining to other galaxies) or a massive war could be consuming it. I mean if you can controll gravity, why cant you wrecnh a star out of a solor system, thus cooling the planets in the system into a permenent ice age! Then you could fire the sun into anotehr solor system and kill billions apon billions of peaple! Finaly, last but not least, am i getting just a little off topic or is it just me?
ONE):: If you need a Dyson Shpere, you can build it. I mean come on A SHPER AROUND A SUN!! You need a nigh on industructable building matireal, the capability to break down the entirety of Jupiters mass and rearange its componint atoms into what you need! So reson suggests that if you have colonised your star system to the hilt, and there is no way to break the FTL barrier, then youd need the billion world space of a Dyson Shperes. (also lets forget about the Mega Shpere, i thought about it and the splitting headach kept me up for a week)
TWO):: Youd have solor collectors every where, becasue the man who theiroised the idea up (Dyson something or other was his name), said that the only way a industral civilication can decreese its need for energy and resourses is by collapsing. So when you build a dyson shpere, its to get every last bit of energy out of the sun, so youd convert the heat, the solor power, the radiation, and any other crap that is flying out of the sun, to something usable. Also the heat would be raddeated out of the shell of the Shpere. Also one writer had a creepyish theiroy. Maby the "dust clouds" in the night sky are actualy spreading swarms of Dyson Shperes that cover the stars of the univers, so eventualy the entire night sky would be blotted out and insted you would pick up a huge wave of Infaread rafiation spreading out of trillions of dyson shperes.
Also for gravity would be made through spinning the damn thing. (but this might will cause a corrolis effect, whitch can be ingnored after you get used to it) Or you could plate the floor with nutronium (Nutron Star matireal) and that would be enough to pull every one down to the ground. (note: yod need to be carfull about the plateing thickness, cause too much nutronium would break your bones) Also higer G races that evolved on gass giants or something, can live in areas where the nutronium plateing is thicker so hecne more gravity. Now about ringworlds...
Ringworlds are like dyson shprers exept slightly less efficent (cause they dont entirly entrap the suns rays). But they have an interesting side ability. Thir rotational effect can be used to creat a huge magnect feild around the sun, then it could be controlled with generators, can be used to pinch hydrogen out of the Sun and then fire it down ward, makeing the sun your engian. That way you could fly a Ringworld! Once your sun runs out of fule, and you are Sunless, youd be going realy realy realy realy realy realy fast. Then you can use the magnectic feild of your ringworld to pinch intersteller hydrogen at teh center and make a slightly less giantic sun! That way you can drive your ringworld out of the galaxi. But then again the only reson to do this would be if the galacxi is gripped in a galactic disaster. Like the galaxi could be exploding (and it could hapin you know, we have pictures of it hapeining to other galaxies) or a massive war could be consuming it. I mean if you can controll gravity, why cant you wrecnh a star out of a solor system, thus cooling the planets in the system into a permenent ice age! Then you could fire the sun into anotehr solor system and kill billions apon billions of peaple! Finaly, last but not least, am i getting just a little off topic or is it just me?
Actually, The force fo spinning a dyson sphere would increase the gravitational factors by a huge degree and also cause several unwanted side effects, have you not thought of the implications of relativity theory on this? No spacecraft could approach a spinning dyson sphere wetehr there was a sun in it or not. The craft would travel towards the sphere but would find it moving around the sphere when travling in a straight line nto to mention the sever temporal effects suffered by the inhabitants of a star surrounding dyson sphere. A dyson sphere with irregular neutronium plating would collapse within hours into a blackhole, destroying the surrounding star systems and inhabitants. A ring world however, I ahve not seen it used as an engine in any theory, however why stop there, a huge magnetic or spinning ring fo mass would eb extremely useful. For oen a civilisation could use ti to break the FTL barrier by stretchign and compressing space between the destination and using it as a slingshot, what about the gravitational and electromagnetic effects? You could generate electricity by placing a stationary ring world around a rotating object such as a sun or planet, thus a free energy device is created.
What about communications or surveillance/telescopes? A huge object spinning at such a speed would bend and stretch space into a spiral but if left stationary would act as a gravitational lense, a huge telescope.
What about time travel? Take the sun and stick it into a cylinder 2 miles long and spin it at several miles per second. The result is that the inards of the cylinder move backwards in time. And that was said by einstein so eys time travel is possible and it is an integral part of modern physics and ahs been since special relativity and general relativity where theorised back in the 1910/20 era
FTL WarpDrive:
We have almost all the technology required to travel Faster than light save 1 thing. We stretch the space behind us while compressing the space ifnront of us allowing us to travel at 1 mile per hour yet move over thousands of miles per second. While we can do that right now we simply cannot generate the sheer amounts of energy to do this. Hence the reason they use Antimatter-matter reactors in Startrek, and high power substances such as naquadria or naquada in Stargate, or ZPM's.
What about communications or surveillance/telescopes? A huge object spinning at such a speed would bend and stretch space into a spiral but if left stationary would act as a gravitational lense, a huge telescope.
What about time travel? Take the sun and stick it into a cylinder 2 miles long and spin it at several miles per second. The result is that the inards of the cylinder move backwards in time. And that was said by einstein so eys time travel is possible and it is an integral part of modern physics and ahs been since special relativity and general relativity where theorised back in the 1910/20 era
FTL WarpDrive:
We have almost all the technology required to travel Faster than light save 1 thing. We stretch the space behind us while compressing the space ifnront of us allowing us to travel at 1 mile per hour yet move over thousands of miles per second. While we can do that right now we simply cannot generate the sheer amounts of energy to do this. Hence the reason they use Antimatter-matter reactors in Startrek, and high power substances such as naquadria or naquada in Stargate, or ZPM's.
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BlackLiger
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sparkyhodgo
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In the spirit of helping Neutralize retake his poor thread, I would like to repeat that I think ring worlds and donut worlds are a really REALLY good idea. I love it that in Moonbase Commander you can't hide in corners. You must be ever vigilant of the attack that can come from any direction. I would LOVE to see options for these kinds of maps in Spring.
lmfaoIn the spirit of helping Neutralize retake his poor thread, I would like to repeat that I think ring worlds and donut worlds are a really REALLY good idea
How about arbitrary shaped worlds, such as cubes and tetrahedrons? Well they could be made on globe worlds through manipulation of the height map. But what about sky?
Should we zoom out to see stars or have a neverending atmoshphere, if we do choose stars how would we stop us from seeing stars on the ground regardless of where ont he globe we are?
About FTL, i dont think we will ever have enough energy to do what you describe, Firestar, unless a truley revolutonary break through i our understanding of physiscs ocures. Neat idea about the time travel, but im not sure if i get it, so could you explain it a bit more in depth (on a different thread of course) But back on topic, why dont we just program in Ringworld maps, Dyson SHpere maps, Planit maps ect. Then you let the player decide to play on whitch map. I mean lets stick with TA's original charm, that of "blow stuff up YOUR way". Also will you be able to improt your own MP3s into Spring. I like turning the sounds down, then turning up the Betoven! <Humms the Ninth Symphoney: Fourth Movement>
ah well as you get faster time slows down for you right? With the cylinder of that mass and size, the gravitational forces would be huge. It would generate somethign similair to the event horizon of a singularity btu at such immense forces that instead of tiem slowing down enough to stop it would actuially carry on into the minus thus reverse.
As for FTL in the method I describe, gravity si the weakest of all forces yet it is able to bend and warp space easily. One such source fo energy would be the likes of the planetery dynamos you talked of before. Perhaps a way fo tapping the potential of virtual particles
As for FTL in the method I describe, gravity si the weakest of all forces yet it is able to bend and warp space easily. One such source fo energy would be the likes of the planetery dynamos you talked of before. Perhaps a way fo tapping the potential of virtual particles