Suggestions for Spring in General

GrOuNd_ZeRo · Post by **GrOuNd_ZeRo** » 14 Mar 2006, 09:35

-Fix con-units trying to repair aircraft in flight.
-Make Air Service Pads decide when a unit should come in for repairs, otherwise i'll have to put half of my air units of 50%!
-Give us modders more control on what a unit fires on and what it NOT fires on, I.E. dontTargetCategory1=vtol;
-Customizable flares and explosions and support for 3D explosions so we can have mushroom clouds!
-seperate layer in textures for alpha, more white means more visible, black means transparant.

I will add more if I can think of it, please don't ignore these suggestions...

NOiZE · Post by **NOiZE** » 14 Mar 2006, 09:50

go use the bugtracker

Archangel of Death · Post by **Archangel of Death** » 14 Mar 2006, 23:22

-Give us modders more control on what a unit fires on and what it NOT fires on, I.E. dontTargetCategory1=vtol;

Umm...

0.65b1
...
-Added new FBI tag OnlyTargetCategory<weaponnum>, sort of like badtargetcategory but the weapon can only target units with these categories,toairweapon in weaponfile is the same as OnlyTargetCategory=VTOL; default is all categories
...

It uses the categories from the Category tag in the fbi's. And I think that whatever you put in that line is a category, so new categories shouldn't be an issue (or at least, I think that is how it was in OTA)

FLOZi · Post by **FLOZi** » 15 Mar 2006, 00:16

that's not quite the same though.

To make it *not* target a category you have to give every other unit some other category and have it only target those.

plus OnlyTargetCategory causes some nasty unit behaviour

mongus · Post by **mongus** » 15 Mar 2006, 02:04

im almost sure bug number one was in the bugtracker.

here

http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=50

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » 15 Mar 2006, 02:33

mongus wrote:im almost sure bug number one was in the bugtracker.

here

http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=50

I REALLY hope that this will not effect the mod Final Frontier cause there all units are flying and i need this patrole repair.

Soulless1 · Post by **Soulless1** » 15 Mar 2006, 02:58

a compromise then - have 'badtargetcatagory' apply to nano beams as well :)

or make a separate 'badnanotargetcategory' version

Post by **jcnossen** » 16 Mar 2006, 18:53

The idea of these target category tags and others as well actually result in a tag for every little exception, that affects all other units and mods as well that even don't need that exception. It should be implemented with a general scripting language or not be implemented at all IMO, because implementing it with the tag system will only add to the spaghetti structure spring already has.

shnorb · Post by **shnorb** » 16 Mar 2006, 20:27

it doesnt seem like you can order con units to guard under construction buildings (stop me if im wrong) which can be a little annoying at time. theres a suggestion!

Drone_Fragger · Post by **Drone_Fragger** » 16 Mar 2006, 20:52

Yuo can. click Guard then Click on the building.

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 16 Mar 2006, 21:12

you can even assign a building under construction that is going to build con units to guard another building that is under construction... or even itself for that matter...

AF · Post by AF » 17 Mar 2006, 20:44

hmm, units guarding themselves.

You noticed a con unti can repair itself? A commander can fully repair itself from like 20% health in 10-20 seconds or less

GrOuNd_ZeRo · Post by **GrOuNd_ZeRo** » 18 Mar 2006, 18:29

Well, the reason why I suggested the donttargetcatagory is because it would add alot more flexibility, either that or have support for multiple groups in the target only catagory.

How about custom explosions (and explosion sequences that fade from one frame into the other like Quake 3 Arena) and muzzle flares? that's something that is relatively important for modern gaming applications and I can't stretch enough how important this is.

I know you want to fix everything with a type of scripting, but I highly doubt you can make a user friendly script system that doesn't confuse the hell out of us.

Veylon · Post by **Veylon** » 22 Mar 2006, 23:22

Con units repair themselves!? That's going into OTAI!

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 23 Mar 2006, 08:29

I don't think you understood, if, for example, a air contruction factory "guards itself" then any con planes it builds guard the factory... automating the process of spam building.

I think that when AF is refereing to a "unit repairing itself" he means "idle units regain health".

if not... that is totally somethign I'm going to have to try...

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » 23 Mar 2006, 08:57

con units can heal themselves in AA, haven't checked XTA.

AF · Post by AF » 23 Mar 2006, 20:38

Not at all, a commander self heals naturally, but you can speed up that healing dramatically by selecting the commander then right clicking on him (aka give a repair command to self).

Command c;
c.id = CMD_REPAIR;
c.params.push_back(unit_id);
cb->giveorder(unit_id,c);

very useful flaw in the engine....

Meben · Post by **Meben** » 25 Mar 2006, 00:42

Do you mean only as a GlobalAI? I couldn't get the AA Arm Commander or ACK to nanolathe themsleves with the mouse or keyboard.

AF · Post by AF » 25 Mar 2006, 15:03

you cant see the repair process going on save through watching how fast their health bars are healing, no nanolathe effects occur when you do it but it definately happens.

GrOuNd_ZeRo · Post by **GrOuNd_ZeRo** » 01 Jun 2006, 07:23

-BUMP-

Anyone working on customized explosions and muzzle flashes? I need this for WD.

Also I need conventional take-off and landing aircraft.

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Suggestions for Spring in General

Suggestions for Spring in General