Shame it would be pritty hard to realize. It's a very complex movement, b ut I'll see what I can do.
My guess is that I won't have a world of time comming week, but everyone who is making stuff for any project is saying that
Silencer Remake: 4th release
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Oeh, very thought out, and illustrated even. Thanks for your care and interest.
Shame it would be pritty hard to realize. It's a very complex movement, b ut I'll see what I can do.
My guess is that I won't have a world of time comming week, but everyone who is making stuff for any project is saying that
Shame it would be pritty hard to realize. It's a very complex movement, b ut I'll see what I can do.
My guess is that I won't have a world of time comming week, but everyone who is making stuff for any project is saying that
My suggestions:
1. Any part of the building that extends beneath the base should be removed or raised to the base's height, or slightly higher. Why? Because Spring will draw the ground right through the model, is why. The underground "tube" is neat, but it won't work correctly in Spring. Instead, use a texture that suggests a hole (fading gray to black, or whatever)and have the nuke rise out. OK, if somebody looks right down it when it opens, that'll look lame, but there's no other way around this, if you're trying to duplicate something from the movie that just doesn't work that way in Spring (for that matter, in the movie I sincerely doubt that they modeled it "underground" either.
2. As for the doors... I'd suggest flipping the lid upwards, or, if you're going to do the "iris effect", you should make it start its motion with a high acceleration... then just hide it and play a sound effect- a metallic "zip" noise of some kind. That way, you don't have to get uber-fancy on the animation, and it still looks and feels convincing. Both approaches are easy and would look good.
1. Any part of the building that extends beneath the base should be removed or raised to the base's height, or slightly higher. Why? Because Spring will draw the ground right through the model, is why. The underground "tube" is neat, but it won't work correctly in Spring. Instead, use a texture that suggests a hole (fading gray to black, or whatever)and have the nuke rise out. OK, if somebody looks right down it when it opens, that'll look lame, but there's no other way around this, if you're trying to duplicate something from the movie that just doesn't work that way in Spring (for that matter, in the movie I sincerely doubt that they modeled it "underground" either.
2. As for the doors... I'd suggest flipping the lid upwards, or, if you're going to do the "iris effect", you should make it start its motion with a high acceleration... then just hide it and play a sound effect- a metallic "zip" noise of some kind. That way, you don't have to get uber-fancy on the animation, and it still looks and feels convincing. Both approaches are easy and would look good.
Surprise! I had been busy with school for some time.
But now I'm into the UV mapping of the model.
And since I never done anything like that before, it was mind breaking work.
I started with a simple cube, following a tutorial I found: http://www.highend3d.com/maya/tutorials ... g/248.html (Maya only)
Yes, It's the cube. the eighth I made since. The first was 3do and worked. 2-7 were s3o and never showed up correctly in spring.
This one followed the rest. I'm getiing hopeless ever getting a s3o to work in Spring.
Well, I UVed the silencer. Made very quick a flugly texture for it.
Actually, It doesn't look better then the untextured model.
So the next thing I'm gonna do is making a decent texture for it. Oh dear.
But now I'm into the UV mapping of the model.
And since I never done anything like that before, it was mind breaking work.
I started with a simple cube, following a tutorial I found: http://www.highend3d.com/maya/tutorials ... g/248.html (Maya only)
Yes, It's the cube. the eighth I made since. The first was 3do and worked. 2-7 were s3o and never showed up correctly in spring.This one followed the rest. I'm getiing hopeless ever getting a s3o to work in Spring.
Well, I UVed the silencer. Made very quick a flugly texture for it.
Actually, It doesn't look better then the untextured model.
So the next thing I'm gonna do is making a decent texture for it. Oh dear.
Update, about time hà?
I've finishied the base. All mouse drawn textured ^.^'
And with Noize's help I was able to produce my cube in spring.
Still buggy, but it's getting somewhere.
[EDIT]
Well, the model is finished.
[EDIT]
Tested it is Spring 0.70b1. Lovely, the black lines are gone!
K, now to script it and all
I've finishied the base. All mouse drawn textured ^.^'
And with Noize's help I was able to produce my cube in spring.
Still buggy, but it's getting somewhere.
[EDIT]
Well, the model is finished.
[EDIT]
Tested it is Spring 0.70b1. Lovely, the black lines are gone!
K, now to script it and all
Ok, getting stuck now.
I have no idea how to script. Any attempts were getting me nowere.
Can't even get the left door to move, or the entire unit to do anything at all.
To work from an existing script getting be stuck as well, can't get the original CORSILO.bos (decompiled from the cob from XTAPE) to compile since I miss "..\anim3d\corsilo\activatescr.bos" and "..\anim3d\corsilo\deactivatescr.bos".
For the rest. The unit is more or less completed.
Some minor bugs, I will hunt down and defeat.
And the buildingpic is to be replaced ofcourse.
http://lassie.student.utwente.nl/vliet/ ... _v1.0A.rar
(containing the s3o, texture, fbi, empty script and CORSILO.bos/.cob)
Can someone take a look at the scripting of this unit?
Thx in advance.
I have no idea how to script. Any attempts were getting me nowere.
Can't even get the left door to move, or the entire unit to do anything at all.
To work from an existing script getting be stuck as well, can't get the original CORSILO.bos (decompiled from the cob from XTAPE) to compile since I miss "..\anim3d\corsilo\activatescr.bos" and "..\anim3d\corsilo\deactivatescr.bos".
For the rest. The unit is more or less completed.
Some minor bugs, I will hunt down and defeat.
And the buildingpic is to be replaced ofcourse.
http://lassie.student.utwente.nl/vliet/ ... _v1.0A.rar
(containing the s3o, texture, fbi, empty script and CORSILO.bos/.cob)
Can someone take a look at the scripting of this unit?
Thx in advance.
@ Chocapic: Depends. The model currently in use by XTA/AA is the same as OTA, AFAIK. However, in OTA's intro the silencer comes out white with the inner tube grey (shown in the first post of this thread). I tried to follow that version, since it's high detail ans simply looks shiny.
It came out more grey, becouse I didn't want it to be plain white. But covered with various sizes of metal patches. This becomes somewhat ugly if you turn down the texture size. the original size of the texture was a rounded 4025*3918. the one used in spring is 776*756. And it still shocks when it loads the texture (when first time placed).
@ both: Thx. ^.^
It came out more grey, becouse I didn't want it to be plain white. But covered with various sizes of metal patches. This becomes somewhat ugly if you turn down the texture size. the original size of the texture was a rounded 4025*3918. the one used in spring is 776*756. And it still shocks when it loads the texture (when first time placed).
@ both: Thx. ^.^
Well i played a bit with the script. It does fire the nuke now, but the doors don't open and stuff like that 
So i hope someone with more skill can continue from here
Code: Select all
// Core Silencer Remake
#include "sfxtype.h"
#include "exptype.h"
piece Base, Tube, Tower, Nuke, Hoses, DoorL, DoorR;
static-var gun_1, restore_delay, statechg_DesiredState, statechg_StateChanging;
#define SIG_AIM 2
activatescr()
{
if( TRUE )
{
move DoorL to x-axis [0.000000] now;
move DoorL to x-axis [8.000000] speed [7.000000];
move DoorR to x-axis [0.000000] now;
move DoorR to x-axis [-8.000000] speed [7.000000];
move Tube to y-axis [0.000000] now;
move Nuke to x-axis [-0.100000] now;
move Nuke to y-axis [0.000000] now;
move Nuke to z-axis [0.100000] now;
sleep 941;
}
if( TRUE )
{
move Tube to y-axis [6.500000] speed [10.000000];
sleep 802;
}
if( TRUE )
{
move Tower to y-axis [27.200000] speed [18.200000];
sleep 1591;
}
sleep 28;
}
deactivatescr()
{
if( TRUE )
{
move DoorL to x-axis [8.000000] now;
move DoorR to x-axis [-8.000000] now;
move Tube to y-axis [6.500000] now;
move Tower to y-axis [27.200000] now;
move Tower to y-axis [0.000000] speed [16.400000];
move Nuke to x-axis [-0.100000] now;
move Nuke to y-axis [0.000000] now;
move Nuke to z-axis [0.100000] now;
sleep 1746;
}
if( TRUE )
{
move Tube to y-axis [0.000000] speed [6.400000];
sleep 836;
}
if( TRUE )
{
move DoorL to x-axis [0.000000] speed [7.800000];
move DoorR to x-axis [0.000000] speed [7.800000];
sleep 576;
}
sleep 49;
}
SmokeUnit(healthpercent, sleeptime, smoketype)
{
while( get BUILD_PERCENT_LEFT )
{
sleep 400;
}
while( TRUE )
{
healthpercent = get HEALTH;
if( healthpercent < 66 )
{
smoketype = 256 | 2;
if( Rand( 1, 66 ) < healthpercent )
{
smoketype = 256 | 1;
}
emit-sfx smoketype from base;
}
sleeptime = healthpercent * 50;
if( sleeptime < 200 )
{
sleeptime = 200;
}
sleep sleeptime;
}
}
Go()
{
show Nuke;
call-script activatescr();
gun_1 = Nuke;
}
Stop()
{
gun_1 = base;
sleep 4000;
call-script deactivatescr();
}
InitState()
{
statechg_DesiredState = TRUE;
statechg_StateChanging = FALSE;
}
RequestState(requestedstate, currentstate)
{
if( statechg_StateChanging )
{
statechg_DesiredState = requestedstate;
return (0);
}
statechg_StateChanging = TRUE;
currentstate = statechg_DesiredState;
statechg_DesiredState = requestedstate;
while( statechg_DesiredState != currentstate )
{
if( statechg_DesiredState == 0 )
{
call-script Go();
currentstate = 0;
}
if( statechg_DesiredState == 1 )
{
call-script Stop();
currentstate = 1;
}
}
statechg_StateChanging = FALSE;
}
Create()
{
call-script InitState();
restore_delay = 3000;
start-script SmokeUnit();
}
Activate()
{
dont-cache Tube;
dont-cache DoorL;
dont-cache DoorR;
dont-cache Tower;
dont-cache Nuke;
start-script RequestState(0);
}
Deactivate()
{
start-script RequestState(1);
cache Tube;
cache DoorL;
cache DoorR;
cache Tower;
cache Nuke;
}
SetMaxReloadTime(Func_Var_1)
{
restore_delay = Func_Var_1 * 2;
}
RestoreAfterDelay()
{
sleep restore_delay;
set-signal-mask 0;
start-script RequestState(1);
}
AimPrimary(heading, pitch)
{
start-script RequestState(0);
signal SIG_AIM;
set-signal-mask SIG_AIM;
while( !gun_1 )
{
sleep 250;
}
start-script RestoreAfterDelay();
return (1);
}
FirePrimary()
{
hide Nuke;
gun_1 = base;
start-script RequestState(1);
}
QueryPrimary(piecenum)
{
piecenum = Nuke;
}
SweetSpot(piecenum)
{
piecenum = base;
}
Killed(severity, corpsetype)
{
if( severity <= 25 )
{
corpsetype = 1;
explode base type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP1;
explode Tube type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP2;
explode DoorL type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP3;
explode DoorR type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP4;
explode Tower type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP1;
explode Nuke type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP2;
return (0);
}
if( severity <= 50 )
{
corpsetype = 2;
explode base type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP1;
explode Tube type SHATTER | BITMAP2;
explode DoorL type FALL | BITMAP3;
explode DoorR type FALL | BITMAP4;
explode Tower type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP1;
explode Nuke type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP2;
return (0);
}
if( severity <= 99 )
{
corpsetype = 3;
explode base type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP1;
explode Tube type SHATTER | BITMAP2;
explode DoorL type FALL | SMOKE | FIRE | EXPLODE_ON_HIT | BITMAP3;
explode DoorR type FALL | SMOKE | FIRE | EXPLODE_ON_HIT | BITMAP4;
explode Tower type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP1;
explode Nuke type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP2;
return (0);
}
corpsetype = 3;
explode base type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP1;
explode Tube type SHATTER | EXPLODE_ON_HIT | BITMAP2;
explode DoorL type FALL | SMOKE | FIRE | EXPLODE_ON_HIT | BITMAP3;
explode DoorR type FALL | SMOKE | FIRE | EXPLODE_ON_HIT | BITMAP4;
explode Tower type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP1;
explode Nuke type BITMAPONLY | BITMAP2;
}
So i hope someone with more skill can continue from here
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Archangel of Death
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Uploaded a fully functional version to FU.
http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=showitem&ID=2558
Be sure to read the comment. Key issue: capitol letters on piece names in the s3o, it doesn't like them. Oh, and thank NOiZE for figuring that out.
http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=showitem&ID=2558
Be sure to read the comment. Key issue: capitol letters on piece names in the s3o, it doesn't like them. Oh, and thank NOiZE for figuring that out.
You truely are an Archangel!
There are some small things in the animation, but I'll be able to fix them
(Mostly, becouse I'm the only person who know exactly how the animation should go )
Soon this model will be complete (some small things I wan't to change in the texture). Only the weird placement-texture bug remains. I will work hard to fix it.
You have my deepest thanks and so does Noize!
There are some small things in the animation, but I'll be able to fix them
(Mostly, becouse I'm the only person who know exactly how the animation should go
)Soon this model will be complete (some small things I wan't to change in the texture). Only the weird placement-texture bug remains. I will work hard to fix it.
You have my deepest thanks and so does Noize!
