The Wiki and Game Pages

[FLOZi]

In the past the philosophy has been:

"Remove all Game pages from the wiki - Games should have their own websites and wikis. The wiki is primarily for development reference."

However in practice, we now have a couple of uncategorised pages due to community developments i.e. Evo being Greenlit:

http://springrts.com/wiki/EvoGreenLitFAQ
http://springrts.com/wiki/EvoGreenlitList

Do we wish to reassess the above philosophy?

At the very least IMO each released, playable game should have at least one page which outlines for example: the key gameplay concepts, and particular technical accomplishments - as they pertain to Spring specifically e.g. Conflict Terra had 'harvester' style resourcing - that prospective game devs may be seeking. Probably the best example of this was the Spring Tanks page but knorke deleted it recently.

With regards those 2 Evo pages, much of that information could be cleaned up and put into a general 'Spring via Steam' help page, perhaps?

[Silentwings]

each released, playable game should have at least one page which outlines for example: the key gameplay concepts, and particular technical accomplishments

+1, I completely agree.

[Jools]

+1, it makes sense.

[smoth]

What about older projects?

[FLOZi]

What about older projects?

Gundam? If so I'd say that should have such a page too. Perhaps I will make a template.

However, none of this addresses what to do with the 2 Evo pages.

[knorke]

the key gameplay concepts, and particular technical accomplishments - as they pertain to Spring specifically e.g. Conflict Terra had 'harvester' style resourcing - that prospective game devs may be seeking.

The Games page should imo only have playable, well working games. It is aimed at players: Games can present themself in whatever way they want to.
Stuff for can be put somewhere in modding pages, as examples.

Probably the best example of this was the Spring Tanks page but knorke deleted it recently.

It is still there: http://springrts.com/wiki/Spring_Tanks
I only marked it "Deprecated".

In the past the philosophy has been:
"Remove all Game pages from the wiki - Games should have their own websites and wikis. The wiki is primarily for development reference."

As I understood that was more towards avoiding lots of cluttered pages with no categories etc, especially if their names might overlap into modding.
For example something like http://springrts.com/wiki/D-gun or http://springrts.com/wiki/Units is bad.

But each game needs a wiki-page of at least basic stuff like authors, links and so on.
In some cases these pages grow larger, to include tutorials, unit guides: Eventually maybe reaching a point where more pages are required.
If done well and following some naming scheme then what is wrong with what? For example:
http://springrts.com/wiki/Balanced_Annihilation:Command_Reference is ok way.
Naming scheme should also be used for images (or other files), having lots of screenshot00125.jpg is bad.
If done correctly then game-specifique stuff does not interfere with spring-stuff and could be in the same wiki.
Too much outside-wiki-stuff has negative effects:
1) It slowly dies, like the outside-hosted images on http://springrts.com/wiki/Kernel_Panic
2) Similiar articles gets written twice, for example the Lua docs on NOTA wiki.
3) Nobody can mark old outside-wiki things as deprecated.

However, none of this addresses what to do with the 2 Evo pages.

Those pages only made sense in context of greenlight release. They have bad naming because that was the least urgent issue at time. A new category for such cases might be: {{cenotaph}}
The topic of lobbychannels could not hold enought text about all the problems.
There was lots of contradicting/wrong help given in chat because many "common" solutions did not work.
Purpose of http://springrts.com/wiki/EvoGreenLitFAQ was to bundle info and link it in topic. (Not feasible to update ~10 channel topics, stickies in forum, in lobby help,.. easier to just have one link)
http://springrts.com/wiki/EvoGreenlitList was similiar but for devs.
Eventually the pages stopped being updated because it became useless: The issues could not be solved before all the players had left.

[zwzsg]

1) It slowly dies, like the outside-hosted images on http://springrts.com/wiki/Kernel_Panic

Thanks, rehosted the images.

[FLOZi]

1) It slowly dies, like the outside-hosted images on http://springrts.com/wiki/Kernel_Panic

Thanks, rehosted the images.

Picard.

Upload them to the wiki.

[zwzsg]

Ooooh, the Spring wiki allows images to be uploaded? I wasn't aware of that.