merge/improve ready/away

merge/improve ready/away

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NeonStorm
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merge/improve ready/away

Post by NeonStorm »

Ready and away both say, that you can't participiate.

Some lobbies don't support the ready state (weblobby, maybe zkl) because Springie (host) makes !start a vote.

How about defining negative values for away in the lobby protocoll?:
* negative values: how long you think, you will be away
* positive values: like now

[edit] Or text values?:
* /away "reason"

The lobby would show something like:
* This user gone afk &msg: I want to come back in &time
* This user gone afk &msg: Just spec me if you want to play
* This user gone afk &msg: "be back in 4 min"; "brb"

Instead of unready, you say how long you will be unready.
And lobbies could set 1-2 min unready after you join somewhere.

/ready can be an alias for /back

/away /unready &time
time = #s, #m, #min, #h, hh:mm -> sets how long you think that you will be away.
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Silentwings
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Re: merge/improve ready/away

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Ready and away both say, that you can't participiate.
Not true e.g. Springlobby. It's the lobby that chooses what to enforce here.
Some lobbies don't support the ready state (weblobby, maybe zkl) because spring makes !start a vote.
Spring doesn't make starting games into a vote, thats the job of autohosts, if at all. Spads won't have a vote to start game unless a player fails to ready ingame.
Instead of unready, you say how long you will be unready.
And lobbies could set 1-2 min unready after you join somewhere.
What is wrong with the current system of becoming a spectator/unreadying when you aren't ready and the unspectating/readying when you are ready? That's less clicks, less thinking & more reliable.
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NeonStorm
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Re: merge/improve ready/away

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Quote:
Ready and away both say, that you can't participiate.

Not true e.g. Springlobby. It's the lobby that chooses what to enforce here.
true - if you afk you can't participate.
Your computer does, but once the first minutes have passed, you most likely lose without any good experience.
Spring doesn't make starting games into a vote, thats the job of autohosts, if at all. Spads won't have a vote to start game unless a player fails to ready ingame.
Sry, I meant Springie - "Springie" is an autohost - will fix that in the starting post.
What is wrong with the current system of becoming a spectator/unreadying when you aren't ready and the unspectating/readying when you are ready? That's less clicks, less thinking & more reliable.
With at least 2 of weblobby, zklobby and nota you can only spec or be ready.

Spec says - start the game without me.
/away says - please wait for me.

But /away is hidden through a chat command (think of newbes) and some forget to clear their unready- or afk- state.

If you could just say "/away 5m" or "/away 'reason' " ppls are more likely to vote on !spec and it would take less time to know why the player don't get ready
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Re: merge/improve ready/away

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NeonStorm wrote: /away says - please wait for me.
No one wants to wait. If you're away, join the next game or start a new one.

If people are willing to wait, you can spec and say I will be right back. If they want to wait, they will.
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NeonStorm
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Re: merge/improve ready/away

Post by NeonStorm »

If there are very few poepls in a room they usually want to wait for somebody.
I often wanted such a message to be displayed while I'm in EvoRTS or similar under-played game and sit there while reading forums, wikis, etc.

If the room is full they may want to wait for someone to make teams even.
If you say brb in chat and spec, peoples which weren't in the battleroom can't see it.

I though it is not only me.
I often wonder if nixtux / nixtux_lostpassword is just afk for some minutes or forget to logout if I join Tech Anni. Same with pepe_ampere and NOTA.
I can't see it^
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