Ubuntu 13.04 errors

[varikonniemi]

When running spring in windowed mode it is impossible to click on the title bar, it just selects whatever is under the spring window. This includes clicking on min/max/close.

This bugging comes on top of the previous problem of spring not being able to maximize correctly, that has now not been corrected in three ubuntu / several spring versions.

It seems the quality of spring is degrading on all fronts, not just in performance issues as seen lately on all platforms. Please do something about this before there is no playerbase left

[Anarchid]

This is totally NOT an issue with Unity, right?

Like those segfaults i keep getting running unity on double screen.

Tl:dr, if canonical is wrecking their window manager, there's nothing spring should do specifically to fix that.

[varikonniemi]

Pointing the finger is unnecessary. Having such a long standing problem getting only worse is alarming.

Ubuntu is for better or worse the most popular distro, so even if none of the other flavors of Linux would work, at least it should or the priorities are not straight...

Also, there is no general problem with unity, or there would be other programs having similar issues.

[Anarchid]

Windows is a much more popular distro than Ubuntu.

It's not an excuse.

[Anarchid]

Oh, i've been running a distribution upgrade today.

varikonniemi: hey, there's no need to point fingers!
unity: haha biatch i'll just crash wm during upgrade process
varikonniemi: it's all spring's fault
unity: bwahaha biatch i'll just won't launch on boot anymore
unity: all your base are belong to us
unity: hahahaa i disabled myself as a compiz plugin, so launching me from CLI won't do shit! eat this up, sucker!
unity: hoho, think you're smart re-enabling me? HAVE A FUCKING SEGFAULT SMARTASS
anarchid: fuckyou shuttleworth, i'm defecting to mint.

[gajop]

We had an older Ubuntu version without Unity in one of our newer labs that recently got an internet connection (took a while as it's in one of the remote cities).
However that old Ubuntu didn't have a working ethernet interface for some reason so we had to update the lab, and the person who did it chose a newer Ubuntu with Unity.
So I'm teaching there and it seems that even alt+tab doesn't work properly, and there's no always-visible task manager.

It has a GUI worse than the it did in 2007 when I first used it.
It's a pile of shit that just wastes extra time as students struggle to use it, sorry, but I don't think one should bother fixing bugs in (or most likely, even caused) by Unity.

[varikonniemi]

Well i narrowed it down some more, and the reason why it "goes through" is because the window think its maximized, but the maximized state is also bugged.

After one manages to toggle maximize once, the titlebar works as expected.

So it is not a new bug, just a new way it manifests itself.

also, before i always had nvidia cards, now i have amd, so it definitely is not a driver problem.

[luckywaldo7]

Everything about this sounds like a window manager problem. Consider trying a different one? (KWin works fine for me)

[varikonniemi]

It most certainly is an incompatibility between the WM and Spring since GS and LXDE do not have this problem in 13.04.

The sad thing is that this is the most popular Linux WM.

[Anarchid]

The sad thing is that this is the most popular Linux WM.

Not for long.

Shuttleworth wants to ditch both X and Wayland and use a brand-new display server with blackcjack and hookers.

You should read this as: if you want to use unity with X, you're fucked, because they don't give a shit for X. And if you want to use their new server once it comes out, you're still fucked because anything not written by Canonical will likely not work on it, and half of things that are written by Canonical likely won't either.

Ubuntu isn't that popular anymore. In fact, if you pay attention to DistroWatch, the bastard child of the spacefarer from south africa is on the decline, with Mint having taken the top spot quite a while ago.

Now: guess why.