New Up0date 93.1 ruined Spring gaming.

[SaMoJr]

I downloaded version 93.1 Spring. Now I can't revert back to 91.0 to play online battle. It says incompatibility despite having the same version 91.0, and battle list is disabled, yet when I update to 93.1 it says the same incompatibility when the same servers say they have 91.0, when I join game, it's desynced. Why launch a update when it's not even a real update especially when the Spring says two contradictory errors? If I update it's incompatible, if I reinstall old version, it's still incompatible. Now I can't play games period.

[dansan]

I see people plaing with 93.1 now. If you are using "springlobby", and still get the version complaint, you can configure springlobby to ignore engine versions by editing "springlobby.conf" and adding/modifying "DisableVersionCheck" in section "Spring":

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[Spring]
DisableVersionCheck=1

[SaMoJr]

I see people plaing with 93.1 now. If you are using "springlobby", and still get the version complaint, you can configure springlobby to ignore engine versions by editing "springlobby.conf" and adding/modifying "DisableVersionCheck" in section "Spring":

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[Spring]
DisableVersionCheck=1

Ignoring the complaint does nothing. It simply replaces the complaint with a black box that temporarily pops up for second, but the game does not launch with version 91.0. Version 93.1 must of screwed something up in the registry. 93.1 I can launch game, but the problem is that it's desynced. The complaint is not what makes the game unplayable. Version 93.1 corrupted something that effects Spring Gaming, where the lobby, even fully updated either does not allow battlelist to be enabled, or the game is desynced, which makes the games unplayable.

[Licho]

On windows, you can use Zero-K lobby, it has an automatic multi-engine support.

[SaMoJr]

On windows, you can use Zero-K lobby, it has an automatic multi-engine support.

Yeah I found Zero K Lobby worked for Zero K. Problem with Zero K Lobby, it's basically a browser that shows the Zero K homepage. Being that I have IE10, this means "browser" graphics acceleration is diverting GPU power from the game itself to help run Zero K Lobby, which I must put my graphics settings on Spring engine on low when using it. Not only that I have Spring to go to other games like Balanced Annihilation etc.

[Silentwings]

With engine 93.1 and springlobby you should be able to play all the BA games right now.

[Forboding Angel]

On windows, you can use Zero-K lobby, it has an automatic multi-engine support.

Yeah I found Zero K Lobby worked for Zero K. Problem with Zero K Lobby, it's basically a browser that shows the Zero K homepage. Being that I have IE10, this means "browser" graphics acceleration is diverting GPU power from the game itself to help run Zero K Lobby, which I must put my graphics settings on Spring engine on low when using it.

Reading that caused my IQ to drop. Thanks. That has to be the single dumbest thing I have ever read. BA players certainly are a special breed.

BTW, uncheck "only official" in the games list in zkl and you will see ba games.

[SaMoJr]

On windows, you can use Zero-K lobby, it has an automatic multi-engine support.

Yeah I found Zero K Lobby worked for Zero K. Problem with Zero K Lobby, it's basically a browser that shows the Zero K homepage. Being that I have IE10, this means "browser" graphics acceleration is diverting GPU power from the game itself to help run Zero K Lobby, which I must put my graphics settings on Spring engine on low when using it.

Reading that caused my IQ to drop. Thanks. That has to be the single dumbest thing I have ever read. BA players certainly are a special breed.

BTW, uncheck "only official" in the games list in zkl and you will see ba games.

Well because it's true. When I play Zero K on medium graphics setting with Zero K Lobby, the game always crashes. With Spring Lobby, I can play with medium graphics, and no crashes. And yes IE9, IE10 use the graphics card. It's called hardware acceleration, basically all web browsers use this. Actually I never played BA though I do watch matches at times. Lol. By the way learn to properly update, & these problems wouldn't arise. You have basically nothing to contribute to fix the problem.

[gajop]

Well because it's true. When I play Zero K with Zero K Lobby, the game always crashes. With Spring Lobby, I can play with medium graphics, and no crashes. And yes IE9, IE10 use the graphics card. It's called hardware acceleration, basically all web browsers use this. Actually I never played BA though I do watch matches at times. Lol. By the way learn to properly update and stop being amateurs.

That seems extremely unlikely. Are you sure you are running the game with the same configuration? Post your infologs.. also best do it in another thread.
Seems like #4 to me: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/0 ... argon.html.

[SpliFF]

I have Firefox permanently open in the background with 10-30 tabs on a mid-range system, playing Spring, Shogun:TW and other games with no slowdown so that suggests to me that either you're wrong or it's an IE-specific thing or maybe an IE plugin.

Either way the usual advice applies: do not, EVER use IE for ANYTHING. It should not be your default browser. It's history of bugginess, exploits and general lack of features (no WebGL, no WebM, missing canvas features, crap CSS3 support, etc) make it a total waste of time and space (and yes, this includes IE10). Even if you think IE does what you need it's very existence makes humanity poorer, but users just keep it around and then wonder why things don't work. I'm not advocating for FF specifically - ANY other browser would be better.

PS. I keep hearing good things about NOTALobby so if zkl ans SL aren't doing what you need try that.

[Forboding Angel]

^^ This. ALL OF THIS. ^^

Allow me to provide you with some relevant links:

https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

Pick one, or both. Then, click start and type in (I'm being semi-sarcastic):
"turn windows features on or off"

Find internet explorer and uncheck it.

Feel free and clean.

Profit???

[abma]

@Spliff:

Zero-K lobby uses internet explorer to show stuff, so switching browser doesn't help when zero-k lobby is used... similar reports where made some time made with firefox: when spring was started firefox just showed a black window. its more a problem when multiple hardware-accelerated windows are open... but this should be fixable by using a different gfx-driver version.

[Jools]

Find internet explorer and uncheck it.

Feel free and clean.

But IE is the only browser that says CLICK when you click on a link or go backwards. CLICK CLICK CLICK. How can we live without that?

[[Kf3in]C21]

I just can't run the new version.
Neither spring.exe or spring-multithreaded.exe run anymore on my pc, even in standalone mode (simple click on exe).
I tried to reinstall but it does not fix anything.
Win 7 Intell core i7 + Nvidia geforce gt 330m

Do you have any tips for me ? Should i post a defect ? Can i get more info on crash ? logs etc ?

Thx

[abma]

@[Kf3in]C21:

maybe thats the same bug:
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29863

updating nvidia drivers could help. if infolog.txt is empty then you've the same bug, if not please post.

[[Kf3in]C21]

@abma
thx for reply.
Probably nvidia driver version indeed i have a fucking vaio Z which only download fucking sony outdated graphic drivers update.

Gonna try to fix it by my own.

Thx

[abma]

or wait for next release, as the crash is fixed in current develop :-/

[[Kf3in]C21]

Thx. i will try to update driver anyway and wait for the next release if it fails.
And thx all for your huge work.

[[Kf3in]C21]

Forcing driver update failed Window can't load driver after reboot.
I will wait so

I tested a snapshot build, mono thread don't crash at start but it crash at loading the demo (loading square textures is the last string displayed), multithread still crash at execution

[abma]

"snapshot build" <- which version? if its <93.2.1-3-g0594d2e, the fix isn't included.

if it still crashes, then its a different bug.