AllyLOS on/off

[PepeAmpere]

It's default engine setting the players in the same alliance share their LOS. I dont see way how to change it.

IF theres no (not much complicated) way how to do that, is possible to add such feature in engine? Please :).

If some dev interested in this, i would prefere to make possible to change this option in game - for example allyLOS is technology/building dependant (for example communication centre making/destroying change it).

Thx.

[Google_Frog]

This would add complication to a few gadgets I have written. From the perspective of my gadgets I could deal with this change but it would take a lot of work to support the features that this change would add.

[gajop]

ideally LOS, alliance and shared unit control would be represented as a directed graph;
@Google_Frog:
You can always make certain assumptions, and if your games assumes them I don't see a problem, you don't have to change anything.

[Jools]

Communication centre. We have one unit like that: the targeting facility [sic]. It isn't used a lot and has lost it's role with the spring feature to autotarget all enemy units on radar (and sometimes outside radar too).

[Google_Frog]

ideally LOS, alliance and shared unit control would be represented as a directed graph

Yes, that would be nifty. Although currently a lot is built on the concept of allyTeam.

@Google_Frog:
You can always make certain assumptions, and if your games assumes them I don't see a problem, you don't have to change anything.

I was thinking about how this change would change the lua interface. The LOS related things in synced read take an allyTeam argument which would have to be changed to team.

[PepeAmpere]

This would add complication to a few gadgets I have written. From the perspective of my gadgets I could deal with this change but it would take a lot of work to support the features that this change would add.

I dont get why it should bring problems for you. The default behavior of engine should stay as before (for example for your game, for your gadgets, allyLOS = ON in whole game, no changes by players actions) and only developers in different games then yours will use this (they have own gadgets). I can understand that some UI widget developer can be sad of this that his widget cannot be used in all games, but i dont know how it can collide with your gadgets...

... maybe in one case you want to use it, too. But it brings a lot of strange questions...

[Kloot]

There is a way to do it without much effort, but only for games with <= 32 (or 64) teams. A general solution would require large-scale rewrites and won't happen soon / ever (certainly not for 92.0).

[gajop]

lemme guess, you are using bitmasks for that? :)

[PepeAmpere]

There is a way to do it without much effort, but only for games with <= 32 (or 64) teams. A general solution would require large-scale rewrites and won't happen soon / ever (certainly not for 92.0).

Thx for answer.

[Nemo]

I made a small, unsuccessful attempt to bring Tobi's years-old losshare branch up to date - he was working on 1-directional LoS sharing between allies. Kloot sounds like he already has an implementation in mind, but if someone else is going to tackle it, tobi's approach might be a starting point. I got close, but don't quite have the C++ chops/understanding of the LoS system to feel comfortable designing new logic in something so core.

But yeah, I'd be excited about this feature as well.