Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

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Norak
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Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

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I don't want to delve too deep into learning Spring until I know it can accomplish what I'm looking for, so any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated!

1. Can I create a standalone .exe with spring? As in, once I've got the finished product sitting in my hands, can I create an exe which I can distribute?

2. Just how code-intensive is a game made in Spring? Looking through the "complete guide to making a game in Spring" tutorial, it seems there is some code involved, but it mostly seems like it'd mostly repetition, not innovation.

3. The only other options I've seen are Game Maker and Torque, does anyone know of other engines? I like to research thoroughly before I go into something, just to make sure I can accomplish what I want.

Thanks in advance,
Norak.
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smoth
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Re: Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

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Norak wrote:I don't want to delve too deep into learning Spring until I know it can accomplish what I'm looking for, so any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated!
Then you should perhaps look at the games which already use spring?
Norak wrote:1. Can I create a standalone .exe with spring? As in, once I've got the finished product sitting in my hands, can I create an exe which I can distribute?
if you want to I guess you could have your own compiled version of spring.
Norak wrote:2. Just how code-intensive is a game made in Spring? Looking through the "complete guide to making a game in Spring" tutorial, it seems there is some code involved, but it mostly seems like it'd mostly repetition, not innovation.
As intensive as you want it to be, really, it depends on what you are going to do.
Norak wrote:3. The only other options I've seen are Game Maker and Torque, does anyone know of other engines? I like to research thoroughly before I go into something, just to make sure I can accomplish what I want.
I played a bit with ogre and irlicht, not big fans of them.

Finals must be over. Summer project?
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Forboding Angel
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Re: Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

Post by Forboding Angel »

To work with spring you need to be a 1 man development army and not expect anything but a lot of help sometimes, and nothing but cryptic clues at other times.

You need to be a modeler, graphic artist, sound engineer, lua developer, map maker, Public Relations manager, and someone who LOVES grunt work.

Don't expect to have anything worth showing for at least a year, and when you do, you won't get anything but hate because it isn't BA.

Sadly, I'm not even joking.
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Re: Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

Post by Google_Frog »

RTS has not been said yet so I better say it now. Spring is for making RTS games and it is pretty good at it. Basically if you want to make some sort of RTS (or something with RTS type controls) use spring but if you don't you should look elsewhere.

As for what you can do there is arecent thread about some specific things.

Lua scripting for games is very flexible so at a glance I think I could implement most RTS mechanics that are currently out there. Of course you can think of more and I have implemented quite a few things seen nowhere else. The general advice is to play a few games people have made with Spring.

Forb is relating his experience. Depending on your aim you don't have to be a map maker and public relations manager. That other stuff is needed for a game but many people seem to get along fine while not being being particularly good at particular areas. This is because they either haven't got around to doing that thing or they have shown enough progress for other people to lend them a hand.
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Beherith
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Re: Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

Post by Beherith »

Hi and welcome!

You can create a standalone exe with spring.

Also, a lot of non default game mechanics that are avaiable in many other rts's have been already done in a spring game. This makes development quite easy. Also, I see that the people here are generally quite helpful once they see the seriousness of your intentions.

Edit: This is primarily an RTS engine. What kind of features are you looking for for your game?
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Karl
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Re: Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

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Things you need to know about making mods/games for Spring RTS

-Able to use text editor
-Knows the hierarchy of the mods/games
-Preferable Modelling and Texturing skills
-BOS/COB or Lua unit script knowledge (copy&paste works)


Things that you need
-Warm underwear
-Good night sleep
-Modelling program and something for 2D too
-Good tasty black and hot cooking coffee
-Patience (Must hold for at least a few year aw c'mon this is not long)
-Enthusiasm
-The love of dirty jobs
-Is not afraid to use anything to be able to make a game/mod


More things you need
-Time
-More time and the time to reverse it
-expect alot of trial and error
-Prepared for redoing a work
-Not being blind
-Neither having a 2 button mouse/mice
-Work is long and boring

Things to except
-Raging community
-"Trolls" that ruins your work
-Suddenly forget where you have started
-HDD is getting whoOOped!
-A coffe stain in your keyboard while your were sleeping close to your monitor and it would be probale that your head is inside your keyboard
-Did I have something forgotten too?
-16 Polygons of doom is not making you happy
-Neither an 512KB sized game
-After 2 year you might be bored doing this
-Rinse and repeat
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knorke
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Re: Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

Post by knorke »

hi!

1)
you can make some installer.exe that unpacks stuff into a folder.
can probally not have game a game.exe that contains everything. (eg the way some flash games get packed for offline play)

2)
That tutorial only covers the basic "how to get your first unit to work", so it is not so exciting.
If you script special attacks, the leg movement of walking units or stuff like that it is more interessting.
Code for "innovative" stuff like units morphing or meteors falling from the sky can be anything from some dozen lines to some thousand lines. Guess it depends what you want..

some more randomly selected threads, where similiar questions were asked:
http://springrts.com/wiki/CollectionOfS ... mod_spring
don't mind the url, had to give it some name :wink:
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PicassoCT
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Re: Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

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You can get into the google code concentration camp! :D
Norak
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Re: Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

Post by Norak »

Wow, thanks for the swift and intelligible replies everyone. I'll look into it a little more, seems so far like Spring might just work.
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FLOZi
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Re: Just what can I accomplish with Spring?

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Just an additional note - if you ask specifics, we can respond specifically.
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