Please remove hang detection

[Forboding Angel]

It does no-one any fucking good and only serves to piss off game devs because spring will crash 4/5ths of the time when starting directly from spring.exe

Also, fucking hangtimeout = 0 doesn't fucking work in 88.

Just do us all a goddamn favor and fucking remove it!

If it actually served a purpose, I would be all for it, but more often than not, HANG DETECTION is the cause of the hangs! It would be funny if it wasn't so fucking irritating!

[Forboding Angel]

Obviously I was just a wee bit pissed off when I made the above post. I had just started spring 15 times in a row, and hang detection caused it to screw up.

It does not like the fact that I have so many sdd's of maps/games, not to mention the 6 gigs or so of maps.

With hangtimeout disabled, startup time is instant. This wasn't an issue in previous versions where I could just turn it off, but now I can't and it's driving me crazy.

[PicassoCT]

budhistic calm during development - your propably never heard of it :D

[abma]

from the docs:

HangTimeout:

"Number of seconds that, if spent in the same code segment, indicate a hang; -1 to disable."

[Beherith]

HangTimeout is case sensitive, that might be the cause of your grief. (tested and working in latest develop branch)

[abma]

uh, indeed, its case sensitive, 0 disables it, too.

[jK]

0 disables it, too.

No, that's new (duno if 88.0 or 88.0.1).

[Forboding Angel]

Hangtimeout = 0 is how it is listed in springsettings. 0 Works fine until now. Will test -1 now.

-1 does nothing. This is the infolog.

http://pastebin.com/TG6r3HPb

Please tell me what possible purpose this serves? Also please don't confuse my calm demeanor in this post for me being ok with it.

I am far beyond upset. It took me 3 times as long as it should have, just to record this video yesterday, thanks to spring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ3-S0oQ ... CChOX-AivA

[abma]

HangTimeout is case sensitive, that might be the cause of your grief. (tested and working in latest develop branch)

Hangtimeout is not the same as HangTimeout.

[Forboding Angel]

It worked fine in 87.0

Why don't you guys do the smart thing and make hangtimeout opt in, instead of opt out?

Edit: HangTimeout = -1 seems to work.

[PicassoCT]

Everything was better in 87. Even the Forb rents were more energetic.

[abma]

Why don't you guys do the smart thing and make hangtimeout opt in, instead of opt out?

because this functionality is used to fix bugs. without making it default for all, noobs would have a problem to report bugs.

It does no-one any fucking good and only serves to piss off game devs because spring will crash 4/5ths of the time when starting directly from spring.exe

If it crashes, please attach infolog.txt, so the bug can be fixed.

[Forboding Angel]

@picasso

Honestly, the only time I rant is when something gets in the way of progress for me.

The only time I actually get upset (about engine stuff) is when the engine directly prevents me from accomplishing a goal.

That video was a very minor example.

@abma
Crashes print in infolog like they always have. What purpose does hangtimeout serve exactly? Except to trigger over and over and over and fucking over until it unfucks itself long enough for spring to start?

[abma]

Crashes print in infolog like they always have. What purpose does hangtimeout serve exactly? Except to trigger over and over and over and fucking over until it unfucks itself long enough for spring to start?

Its used to find the location, where a hang/endless-loop occurs...

[Forboding Angel]

Ok, well then, where is my endless loop? (in the infolog I pastebinned earlier)