Remove optional rapid checkbox from installer

[hoijui]

The way you are talking to me here makes you sound like my mother, AF.

ouh no! AF is my mother!
... makes me kind of proud, seeing what i managed to squeeze out of such a legacy.

thing is, without me derailing this thread, it would go on much longer and waste much more time, and if noone else is doing it, then an engine dev has to, even though "engine devs have to be persons of respect" shit. i still fail to see how they have to be more so then anyone else.
if you want me to stop bitching, do the bitching yourself!

if i were a mod of this forum. i would just insta-delete every forb ass post, and ban him if he reposts.
in reality, bankers take your money, for no actual value generated, and their primary and best justification to do it is: if nobody tries to stop us, it can't be wrong. assy-forb is an investment banker of this community. you have to rape him hard, every time he is assy. that is the only way to deal with it. it is so extremely simple.

[knorke]

the gangsta rap battle was kind of funny but maybe now is enough?
calm down dear!
everybody do the Trademark? (tm)(tm)(tm)

[momfreeek]

Did you get infected hoijoi? You can't fight the drama queen with drama. They laugh when you start bitching too.

Yeah, isn't it kinder to just delete forb's tantrums? Its not like this shit does him a favour.

Actually, you know what? Fuck you guys. I've had enough.

[Tim-the-maniac]

Why do the devs take so much shit from someone who contributes so little? Ban the prick, this place will be better off.

[Licho]

Why do the devs take so much shit from someone who contributes so little? Ban the prick, this place will be better off.

By that guy you mean you? FA is a dev too and contributes a lot - creating whole OS game is not an easy task.
Being affected by something you cannot control is frustrating.

[smoth]

this isn't the gay quarter

or is it BWA HA HA

[smoth]

someone who contributes so little? Ban the prick, this place will be better off.

Forb has made a lot of maps.. he spent years doing that. I do not agree with his behavior but I think tim, "you first" is my thought on that. Before you talk about how little someone has done, I feel it is only fair that you, yourself contribute.

I should be absolutely clear here:

• * content produced count does not make a person right or beyond reproach.
  * If you are going to mock someone about how much they did or did not contribute, better have something of your own to show.

Just being fair.

[Tim-the-maniac]

Sorry I think my use of "contribute" was too vague. I meant contribute to the gaming experience of the players. So if I made lots of useless lua or unplayed maps, I wouldn't consider myself much of a contributor.

Point being I can only guess that people get away with e-raging like this because the mods assume they are important in some way.

[smoth]

EE was primarily played on forbs maps. Gundam had a bunch of games on his maps.. Sorry man but you are being too dismissive of the work of others. I understand that you may have not played on them but many others have, I think you are being a bit unfair/closed off to the experience of others.

Again, I don't approve his behavior but we are not mods. Raging and bitching isn't going to win you points with them. Try making solid arguments and using the report button. I do think longtimers and frequent posters are given a bit of forgiveness but not much. I this is because they like myself, have to deal with players like yourself who are less than friendly. Now some outbursts are too much and I don't understand the tolerance there. Personally I hold back a lot out if the belief that the rules do apply to me. So I cannot speak to why forbs outbursts go unpunished. I always assumed they were punished.

Eitherway this is a pretty big derail. Perhaps you can start a thread asking the big questions which are at the heart of your cognitive dissonance? Try to refrain from name calling and profanity.. Also links to questionable posts would greatly help your arguments in said thread. Do try to avoid posts older than a year in your example

[AF]

this isn't the gay quarter

or is it BWA HA HA

[Tim Blokdijk]

Lets just get the new version released. What the version number is, with or without the checkbox, it's all bikesheding.

[Pxtl]

You mean shedding bikes.

[abma]

@Forb

what problem do you exactly have when rapid isn't installed? your update script fails if rapid isn't installed?

maybe adding this helps: (?)

Code: Select all

if not exist rapid.exe (
    echo "couldn't find rapid, please install rapid!"
    pause
    exit 1
)

[FLOZi]

At which point user says "wtf is rapid and why isn't it installed?"

[smoth]

IMO...

spring should be:
/bin/ with spring.exe, springsettings, rapid, upspring all included.
/lib/ for all dlls
just sayin.. not that I have any weight..

I don't see why rapid is an option, is there any real reason NOT to included.. we have archivemover which (undesirably I must say) moves my spring files to userland even though I use a portable install... so why the fuss over rapid.

[abma]

I don't see why rapid is an option, is there any real reason NOT to included.. we have archivemover which (undesirably I must say) moves my spring files to userland even though I use a portable install... so why the fuss over rapid.

it (should) be not needed if you use a lobby... the problem is: springlobby still lacks rapid support.<adverts> this is why i started writing pr-downloader. hopefully the lib can be used to integrate rapid support into springlobby. </adverts>

whats the problem with rapid beeing optional? why is springlobby and zk optional? this would make most of the checkboxes useless...

i personally would like to see, that the spring engine installer will install something like a sdk, it just contains info/tools, how to make a game/map/ai's. no rapid, no lobby, no archivemover. but that doesn't fit with current needs to the installer.

[FLOZi]

i personally would like to see, that the spring engine installer will install something like a sdk, it just contains info/tools, how to make a game/map/ai's. no rapid, no lobby, no archivemover. but that doesn't fit with current needs to the installer.

This suggests you realise content devs are the engine end users.

Perhaps consider that end users sometimes make reasonable requests.

[smoth]

oh god, don't start the end user discussion, I will get pms out the yin-yang about how I don't know what an end user is ...

abma, I don't want to post against zk lobby, the thread will be derailed fast.

Would be nice if the lobbies did support rapid natively but still you are assuming things about the game devs...

I guess it depends on who we see the end use...oh wait I don't want to be floooded.

[abma]

hm, i will put that on my todo if its possible to add a selection box to the installer like:

"easy install"
"advanced install"

but i don't know if thats easy possible with nsis (the installer we use for spring).

would something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSIS_screenshot.png fit to your needs?

did you guys even test the current installer?

looks like thanks forb many guys wasted some time...

[smoth]

I don't really have any complaints.. I use a custom installer, I was just struck by the rapid stuff as odd.