want a new svn server... need advice.

[AF]

They aren't the same conversation, in fact, one was not intended to be continued at all ( the post in this thread ), nor was the original post ( the first post I made in this thread ). Both where individual, isolated posts, made with no expectation of a response, or intention to continue discussion.

The PM was sent because I didn't want to derail the thread ( which you now seem intent on derailing anyway ).

As for git, aside from my suggestion of the GitSVN tool, the majority of my post was actually about SVN, not Git. If you had simply ignored it or said "I see what you're saying but that's not for me" then I'd probably be marvelling at what Koshi and Forb said ( if I'd posted anything at all )

[smoth]

if you want it ALL TO BE ABOUT YOU you will keep making it all about you.

[AF]

THIS is why I went to PMs

[smoth]

Yeah no af.

I am going to make this clear as crystal.
GIT
FUCK NO
SVN
YES

I don't care what your preference is.

Now
Let me try and better explain, because this thread is not on track because of my attempt to not be pendantic.

I currently have hosting on PROJECTLOCKER. I am not sure of the proper term but in this site I have 3 "projects" which are actually different subdirectories.

Here is what I have:
GundamRTS
mapresource
-redacted-

each one has it's own directory, each one has it's own user permissions. The reason being, is that only I can access my models and refuse to share that. map resource is where I occasionally upload map source files to for people like beherith. I use gundamRTS for the main project. -redacted- is where I privately store my model and skin source files. I will probably post my Halloween project also in project locker as a new project.

When I signed up for my plan the deal was no anonymous acess just 3 extra accounts could access. Obviously this is problematic because it makes it harder to use for people who are new to svn, how does I password etc.

Anyway, the thing is I wanted to be sure my gundamrts can be acessed by anyone for viewing so that anything I do can be retrieved. I intend on gundam's CODE SOURCE and SOMEIMAGES to be open. The reason is that I do not wish to assign license to copyrighted materials such as the Zaku image, likeness or name. While my project is fanart, should I cross the line and try and distribute such copyrighted things LIKE the Zaku I would be violating Bandai's IP. Something which would be both rude and piss them off.

I might mostly do check-ins and occasional reverts but I like the way SVN works, am comfortable with it and refuse to use GIT. If I can get my anonymous access I may start adding branches for different releases rather than just making a commit that commit### is a release. I don't care about how much YOU like GIT, I am the one using this most of the time. NOT YOU. I am aware of GIT, I don't like it, that is how it is. I do not MISTAKE SVN for a generic term replacing A VCS. I mean very specifically SVN.

Maybe project locker is NOT the right place, Maybe it is, I was hoping for some options. I see that I will just stick with the server I am on. I was hoping that since many of you used SVN in the past for VC that maybe you guys had a place you might suggest I try out. That is not the case. BTW thanks for the suggest dan, I did see it. Currently project locker hosts me at a reasonable price so I probably will stay with them. They have been reliable and honestly that is all I needed.


this is the reason I was looking at leaving project locker.

Q: How do I manage permissions in Trac?

If you are a project admin, you can log into your Trac instance, select the Admin link in the top nav bar, then go to the Permissions link on the left. To change a user's permissions, type the username of your user into the Subject field. Next, select the permission you would like them to have added.

Permissions for any group that the user is in are added to the user-specific permissions for that user. By default, a user is in the "authenticated" and "anonymous" groups, since no one can access ProjectLocker instances without authenticating. If you'd like to customize permissions for the whole team, you can either add them to "authenticated" or create a new group for your team with basic permissions and adjust per user as needed.

Hmm... not sure if I understand that IP stuff correctly... is GundamRTS open source, or not, or partially? If the stuff you want to share with others were OSS (OSI compliant license), you could use sourceforge - they offer svn.

Gundam's source code as in lua, bos:
is PD where I can and GPL where I have to. Personally I think the code in gundam should ALL be PD but unless I get express permission from the original author(s), something no matter how modified stays with it's old license. I do not include anything more locked than GPL.

GPL does not cover artwork.
It is the art and some sounds which I cannot put a license on. To avoid confusion, I release artwork as separate when I can : like this example. However like I said anything that is obviously property of bandai because it is based on their IP is not open. As people cannot ascertain this unless they are gundam fans, I do not allow anyone access to the artwork unless I release it(like I did my ceg source files years ago).

So I say that gundam is closed license, which does not violate spring's GPL. However, I still make it a point to give the lua or bos to whoever wants it. Because people cannot read minds and the law is complicated. I tell people that gundam is "closed license" and if they need something from it to ask me. That way I can be judicious about what I give people permission to take. If you follow me.

[hoijui]

couldn't you use one of the 3 extra accounts to create a mirror repo that only mirrors the public stuff?
that public mirror repo would be read only, and i guess stability would not be an issue there (as its loss would mean no data-loss for real), so it could be any free service.

[smoth]

that is interesting. I can do that?

[dansan]

Gundam's source code as in lua, bos:
[..]
GPL does not cover artwork.
[..]
I tell people that gundam is "closed license" and if they need something from it to ask me. That way I can be judicious about what I give people permission to take. If you follow me.

Thank you for explaining. Now I see, why a full public repo is out of the question, and why you need path-permissions.
I guess in time you will need lots of user accounts, and that's exactly where service providers put their price tags :(

[Petah]

Have you thought about use Git? Its much better than SVN, and there is even GitSVN too.

[smoth]

[Das Bruce]

Next person to mention GIT gets banned.

[Noruas]

Come GIT some.

Incoming.

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[AF]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI

*facepalm*

[Das Bruce]

AF, if you have nothing to add but passive agressive bitchyness then leave the thread.

[smoth]

couldn't you use one of the 3 extra accounts to create a mirror repo that only mirrors the public stuff?
that public mirror repo would be read only, and i guess stability would not be an issue there (as its loss would mean no data-loss for real), so it could be any free service.

that is interesting. I can do that?

[AF]

http://beerpla.net/2009/06/20/how-to-pr ... mand-line/

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4332 ... it-problem

http://idonny.com/analysis/infrastructu ... alk-around

Google ftw

As I mentioned before, split your 'redacted' parts off into separate SVN repos that are completely private, then add them as SVN externals to your public SVN. If they try and checkout the whole SVN it'll just ask them for a password for the redacted part, else they can just checkout the other public folders.

[smoth]

That is not the same as what he said.

The google ftw bit can go "passive aggressive bitchyness" needs to stop.