I laughed for a full minute.knorke wrote:These tests are nice. I like taking them when they show up on a computer with no adblocker, this one is best:
(Who are your relatives? Test now.)
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@Panda
nice post!
the last part though...
from the point of view of someone that would not get the idea i did, it would not be mindless, from my perspective, it surely is. what matters though, is neither of the two, but how feasible the idea is, or whether it will ever be abused in the way portrayed in the idea.
10, or maybe even 5 years ago still, what would normal people have said, if you told them that today, they would be using a cellphone that transmits their exact location at every time of the day to some central storage? you would have been called a paranoid freak, and now it is totally acceptable, a norm of the reality.
it is very unlikely that the police will ever use the aspie chart as a serial killer detection mechanism, and come and arrest you for though crime in the future, cause you posted it online, but .. more about that later. it is quite some more likely, that it will be used as a sort of statistical evidence to decide over some marketing thing, like what kind of adds to produce, or how exactly to produce them.
porn-site owners mix in some small percentage of child porn. now when you click on the wrong links too often, or with newer browsers and protocol versions, or even keep your mouse-pointer over the wrong thing for too long, you would be registered in some sort of suspicion-DB. as this of course can be used to create money also, it will be, and there will be "iPhone apps for good parents, now only 99 cents!11". among which is one, that shows you suspicious people living in your neighborhood, or walking by on the street.
so remember kids, always move your mouse to screen edge before taking a call, or you might be irrecoverably socially dead in a few years from now.
...hmmm then again...
this would also open tremendous opportunities, like... if you are fond of some uncommon sexual practices, it could help you find a partner much easier!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmBxVfQTuvI
nice post!
the last part though...
from the point of view of someone that would not get the idea i did, it would not be mindless, from my perspective, it surely is. what matters though, is neither of the two, but how feasible the idea is, or whether it will ever be abused in the way portrayed in the idea.
10, or maybe even 5 years ago still, what would normal people have said, if you told them that today, they would be using a cellphone that transmits their exact location at every time of the day to some central storage? you would have been called a paranoid freak, and now it is totally acceptable, a norm of the reality.
it is very unlikely that the police will ever use the aspie chart as a serial killer detection mechanism, and come and arrest you for though crime in the future, cause you posted it online, but .. more about that later. it is quite some more likely, that it will be used as a sort of statistical evidence to decide over some marketing thing, like what kind of adds to produce, or how exactly to produce them.
porn-site owners mix in some small percentage of child porn. now when you click on the wrong links too often, or with newer browsers and protocol versions, or even keep your mouse-pointer over the wrong thing for too long, you would be registered in some sort of suspicion-DB. as this of course can be used to create money also, it will be, and there will be "iPhone apps for good parents, now only 99 cents!11". among which is one, that shows you suspicious people living in your neighborhood, or walking by on the street.
so remember kids, always move your mouse to screen edge before taking a call, or you might be irrecoverably socially dead in a few years from now.
...hmmm then again...
this would also open tremendous opportunities, like... if you are fond of some uncommon sexual practices, it could help you find a partner much easier!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmBxVfQTuvI
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Are you sure you don't need some psychiatric help? I am quite paranoid myself, but this is surpassed mine by several levels.hoijui wrote:porn-site owners mix in some small percentage of child porn. now when you click on the wrong links too often, or with newer browsers and protocol versions, or even keep your mouse-pointer over the wrong thing for too long, you would be registered in some sort of suspicion-DB.
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related for you hoi
Your assumptions about my history and past are collosal. The government has piles of data from when I was a teenager and I am not putting more of that on this forum. I should not have to explain any aspect of my life. The fact that you just off hand call people mindless without consideration to the fact that you are completely ignorant about NEAR ALL of their life. I understand if you want to fight the system but you need to stop making assumptions about people's lives.
Also FYI I had 1 friend and a college classmate both get busted for CP so I am on a watchlist from that. In case you are slow on the uptake.. I am on their aim lists you know shit from '97, I stopped using that account because of that, even still I was put on watch by association for someone's real criminal action
You know, REAL LIFE shit? the stuff you don't know about. So stop critiquing other's behaviors and lives when you don't know their details. I don't care what you do in your life, it doesn't effect me and I think it is terribly rude of you to just make offhand assumptions. You can go live in a forest if you want and hide from the man but I am going to be a part of the world.
To me it is MINDLESS fear that makes you hide from technology. OMG better fear it all.
I mean christ ever heard of warbles?. Look at that nature, invading someone! That is just one of the bad things. Don't get me started on all the armed guys in Guatemala. Yet i wanted to see tikal so I went.
The point is:
You call people mindless as if you are some omniscent judge of them. you don't know shit about anyone. Stop judging because the only person you really know is yourself. It would be different if they effect you but anyone taking a stupid online test does not really have an effect on you.
If you want to live in a hole and be afraid all your life that is also control. You want to be controlled by your fear? Control starts also by making people afraid of things like facebook because OMG erry little thing I do they can use against me. SO they control you now, you are afraid of facebook, you are afraid of having your phone on? why? LIVE and don't be afraid. you are 1 of billions on this planet, you are not important unless you have done something or one of your dumbassed friends or acquaintances do something.
Your assumptions about my history and past are collosal. The government has piles of data from when I was a teenager and I am not putting more of that on this forum. I should not have to explain any aspect of my life. The fact that you just off hand call people mindless without consideration to the fact that you are completely ignorant about NEAR ALL of their life. I understand if you want to fight the system but you need to stop making assumptions about people's lives.
Also FYI I had 1 friend and a college classmate both get busted for CP so I am on a watchlist from that. In case you are slow on the uptake.. I am on their aim lists you know shit from '97, I stopped using that account because of that, even still I was put on watch by association for someone's real criminal action
You know, REAL LIFE shit? the stuff you don't know about. So stop critiquing other's behaviors and lives when you don't know their details. I don't care what you do in your life, it doesn't effect me and I think it is terribly rude of you to just make offhand assumptions. You can go live in a forest if you want and hide from the man but I am going to be a part of the world.
To me it is MINDLESS fear that makes you hide from technology. OMG better fear it all.
I mean christ ever heard of warbles?. Look at that nature, invading someone! That is just one of the bad things. Don't get me started on all the armed guys in Guatemala. Yet i wanted to see tikal so I went.
The point is:
You call people mindless as if you are some omniscent judge of them. you don't know shit about anyone. Stop judging because the only person you really know is yourself. It would be different if they effect you but anyone taking a stupid online test does not really have an effect on you.
If you want to live in a hole and be afraid all your life that is also control. You want to be controlled by your fear? Control starts also by making people afraid of things like facebook because OMG erry little thing I do they can use against me. SO they control you now, you are afraid of facebook, you are afraid of having your phone on? why? LIVE and don't be afraid. you are 1 of billions on this planet, you are not important unless you have done something or one of your dumbassed friends or acquaintances do something.
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I wouldn't say that all decisions to avoid technology are mindless, some are very mindful, but nearly all decisions made merely out of fear are mindless. There are some things I choose not to do, like keep a blog, for a variety of reasons, one of which is that this blog will be accessible to a wide selection of people and I have been pursued and harassed in the past by both individuals and organizations. However, there are other factors - I don't have the time to document my activity, I'm too busy engaging in said activity, I'd rather spend my writing time producing business work and fiction, I'd rather spend my time online interacting directly with people.
I agree that there is little threat to the lives of most from the various forms of omnipresent surveillance. It isn't practical to analyze and apply the vast amounts of data being produced, and in many cases it isn't practical to store it. As Smoth notes, nobody is going to put in the effort if you are not in some way comparatively notable.
I agree that there is little threat to the lives of most from the various forms of omnipresent surveillance. It isn't practical to analyze and apply the vast amounts of data being produced, and in many cases it isn't practical to store it. As Smoth notes, nobody is going to put in the effort if you are not in some way comparatively notable.
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so i can choose to do X or not to do X. i have absolutely no benefit in doing X, but there are potential risks when doing X.
-> i won't do X.
you declare i don't do X because of fear, totally out of the blue.
you do not give a single argument or hint why i should do X.
it is like i tell you, that you are obviously controlled by your fear, because you are not walking round the block 24/7.
-> i won't do X.
you declare i don't do X because of fear, totally out of the blue.
you do not give a single argument or hint why i should do X.
it is like i tell you, that you are obviously controlled by your fear, because you are not walking round the block 24/7.
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BBC documentary The Trap. very much relevant to topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_zk2X92kxY
... especially when you get to part 5 of 6.
beware, these 6 parts form only the first of tree bigger parts. the other 2 are on youtube too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_zk2X92kxY
... especially when you get to part 5 of 6.
beware, these 6 parts form only the first of tree bigger parts. the other 2 are on youtube too.
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nutjob much?
Here is a relevant picture:
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Conclusion from this:hoijui wrote:BBC documentary The Trap. very much relevant to topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_zk2X92kxY
... especially when you get to part 5 of 6.
beware, these 6 parts form only the first of tree bigger parts. the other 2 are on youtube too.
All human interactions should be done though the internets cause you can troll and flame but not actually harm anyone physically ^^
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hoijui has some points on beeing easy to observe on the intertubes... trust me its amazing people can do. There are even captchas, that can identify you by the way you hit the keyboard. Some paymentservices use those to get rid of muggers
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While your reasoning makes sense, there are a few weaknesses I'd like to point out, which I consider in my own decision making. We are not omniscient, so our evaluation of benefit and risk is always incomplete. In any task, you can find potential risk, whether incidental or derivative.hoijui wrote:so i can choose to do X or not to do X. i have absolutely no benefit in doing X, but there are potential risks when doing X.
-> i won't do X.
you declare i don't do X because of fear, totally out of the blue.
you do not give a single argument or hint why i should do X.
it is like i tell you, that you are obviously controlled by your fear, because you are not walking round the block 24/7.
That said, it is completely valid to avoid potential risk when you see insufficient benefit. I do it all the time, I've rejected a number of modern technologies in part because of careful risk analysis and mindful attention to my situation. I avoid cloud solutions, I avoid closed platforms, I have limited participation in online social networks. However, I can also recognize valid reasons for making decisions to the contrary, because there are risks or costs entailed in the path I've chosen. In disengaging from social networking I've reduced my accessible data footprint and made it more difficult for potential employers to evaluate my behaviour, which in some cases will negatively affect my applications. In avoiding cloud solutions I've shouldered responsibility for my own data management and made myself dependent on consumer level storage equipment. In working on open platforms I've subjected myself to inconsistent design ethos and sometimes traded potential professional help for personal responsibility.
What I mean to say is that those who make different choices than I are not mindless, they just value or perceive different things. Perhaps they have access to different information. Perhaps they think I am paranoid or foolish or ignorant, and perhaps I think the same of them. I try not to write their perspectives and experiences off as mindless - whether right or wrong, there is a mind at work.