Important notice about the SeaGate Baracuda line.

[smoth]

I have experienced a deathstar shit sucked.

[Caydr]

Buy an SSD, they rule. I've got a pair of 90s in RAID just for shiggles, plus it was somehow cheaper to buy 2 90s than a single new 120 to pair with my older 120.

Yeah, so... just find yourself a 200+ gig SSD, they never die and NAND manufacturing technology is extremely mature and reliable. No more of this "moving parts" shit. 200 GB is the magic point at which any sensible amount of software can fit. At my present 180 GB, I've got about 20 or so large games installed plus a bunch of professional software and it's almost full.

[Coresair]

I hope the thermals not effecting HDD life is true, just decided to touch mine to see if it heated up.....Very hot. I checked the senser and 51C...

[SpliFF]

Did the Google article say what type of drives they were testing? As I've said there's a significant difference between desktop and enterprise drives. There's a very good chance that the Google testing involved enterprise drives so any conclusions should not automatically be taken as applying to desktop drives as well.

EDIT. nvm, I checked the PDF. "The disks are a combination of serial and parallel ATA consumer-grade hard disk drives, ranging in speed from 5400 to 7200 rpm, and in size from 80 to 400 GB. All units in this study were put into production in or after 2001. The population contains several models from many of the largest disk drive manufacturers and from at least nine different models."

[KDR_11k]

Just checked (I don't memorize these things) and my computer is equipped entirely with Samsung drives. Interesting considering they were bought with zero brand preference over the course of many years.

[Neddie]

Yeah, I have two Fujitsu, three Seagate, one Hitachi, two WD, one Samsung and one Toshiba active. I must note that Hitachi GST was just bought by WD and Fujitsu was bought by Toshiba in 2009 so we are looking at a reduced selection these days. The major players still standing are Seagate, WD, Toshiba and Samsung.

This is one of those industries where consolidation doesn't appear to be helpful to the consumer. Hitachi debuted the first wide release 500 GB and then 1 TB drive, Fujitsu devised HAMR.

[Forboding Angel]

Are you sure that by "no damage" they don't just mean that the arm compensates for the platters changing size?

Edit: That still doesn't mean that you don't need to keep your puter cool. The more fans the better (FYI the antec 300 case is fucking beautimus for cooling (It's what I have)), and don't be a whiny bitch about the noise... Get the 80cfm fans

[Coresair]

Almost thought you said 900 there for a minute.....was about to rage. Anyways, I have 0 intank fans and one exhaust. Oh and normally run about 300w worth of gpus, go my shitty system and poor hdds.

[AF]

edit: zomg my thumb??!?!!?!?

[Forboding Angel]

Congrats, you could have had 2tb of storage for the cost of that 60gb ssd.

[AF]

That SSD is worth more than its weight in gold, everything is so faaaast

[very_bad_soldier]

Congrats, you could have had 2tb of storage for the cost of that 60gb ssd.

Thats like comparing a truck with a Ferrari.

[Forboding Angel]

Epic waste of money.

You're right vbs, but you neglected to mention that the Ferrari only has one seat, so the blonde that you met at the bar has to drive herself to your place (which isn't going to happen), so while you look cool, you look cool all by your onesies.

With a truck, you can give the entire party a ride back to your place where you engage in epic orgies and bbq.


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If you prefer a different analogy, It's like putting a Ferrari on a go-kart track. Sure, you can go really fast, but where?

[very_bad_soldier]

Hm, disagree. You dont buy an SSD OR a magnetic drive, you buy an SSD in addition to your existing drive. And its not a waste of money at all. In fact, when I bought an SSD about 10 months ago, I had the biggest boost in performance for my machine I have seen in a long time. At any time I would prefer an SSD over a multicore CPU or DDR3 RAM or any other thing people usually buy to pimp their rig. Just because you feel the better perfomance with every program you start and with every single hard drive access.
So, when you have both its like having a bbq orgy truck driving at 300 mph.

Seriously, if you dont have an SSD already, go NOW, buy one, install your OS and your apps onto it and feel great. Just start Photoshop once from an SSD and you will be convinced, really.

[1v0ry_k1ng]

Epic waste of money.

You're right vbs, but you neglected to mention that the Ferrari only has one seat, so the blonde that you met at the bar has to drive herself to your place (which isn't going to happen), so while you look cool, you look cool all by your onesies.

With a truck, you can give the entire party a ride back to your place where you engage in epic orgies and bbq.


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If you prefer a different analogy, It's like putting a Ferrari on a go-kart track. Sure, you can go really fast, but where?

...pretty sure the Ferrari has two seats

[Forboding Angel]

Nice job at completely misinterpreting an analogy IK.

@vbs, omg ps starts up in 3 - 5 seconds faster??!?!?!1111oneeleventyone

In the meantime, you have to cherry pick what gets put on your os drive, symlink all of your userland stuff, and a bunch of other retardedness. I'll pass.

I'm not disputing that there is a performance gain. What I am disputing is the fact that I would take the 2tb of storage in a hot minute over the proposed performance gain. Besides, with what I do, I'd shred an ssd in 6 months. It's a nice shiny toy, but atm that's all it is, and until ssds are able to compete with existing harddrive tech, they will remain a hobbyist's toy.

[Hoi]

Maybe he already has enough disk space. Would your second car be another honda civic or would it be a ferrari?

Just because you *think* ssd's are not useful does not mean that they are not.

[very_bad_soldier]

@vbs, omg ps starts up in 3 - 5 seconds faster??!?!?!1111oneeleventyone

Well... yeah, I like it! If its not a valid argument for you that program startups are twice as fast, what is a valid argument then? SSDs need to cure cancer to be cool?

EDIT:
This: http://vimeo.com/13850935
Cmon, admit it, thats awesome

[MidKnight]

Hahahaha Maxtor.
I once got two 100gb Maxtor drives for like $250 (killer deal back then). I used one, and the other stayed in the box. I just recently (last year) needed a PATA HDD, so I took it out and plugged it in.

It was DOA.

[Forboding Angel]

Maybe he already has enough disk space. Would your second car be another honda civic or would it be a ferrari?

Just because you *think* ssd's are not useful does not mean that they are not.

If I didn't need a second car, I wouldn't buy one.

I didn't say they weren't useful. Having a gulfstream to take me to work everyday would be useful and classy, but quite impractical considering that a gulfstream costs about as much as 20+ honda civics and the fuel is much more expensive, not to mention that I don't ahve any spare runways lying around.