MINECRAFT IS NOW BETA!

[PicassoCT]

buckets of tears - its the playground allover again

He trampeled my sandfortress. Buhuuuu, mum, he walked over it, for the lulz.

[Wombat]

Wombat no fucking way I will tell anyone from spring where I play

[Johannes]

buckets of tears - its the playground allover again

He trampeled my sandfortress. Buhuuuu, mum, he walked over it, for the lulz.

And you can't even beat them up for revenge.

[Zydox]

/sethome seems broken.

Yeah, I'll try to look into that tonight if I get the time :)

[TradeMark]

After 5 minutes all and I mean all hostile monsters are dead, I then expand my perimeter until day where I restock, hunt game prepare armor and assorted other tasks.

And do you realise that the more you build, the more you have to defend? = whats the point? "hihi i build big castle so i can run away from monsters!" doesnt make sense...

Wombat no fucking way I will tell anyone from spring where I play

Wow you just declared everyone from spring as idiots... why do you keep chatting here if we all suck so hard...? + why make a topic about Minecraft on Spring Forums if you hate everyone from spring, eheh.

[Cheesecan]

After 5 minutes all and I mean all hostile monsters are dead, I then expand my perimeter until day where I restock, hunt game prepare armor and assorted other tasks.

And do you realise that the more you build, the more you have to defend? = whats the point? "hihi i build big castle so i can run away from monsters!" doesnt make sense...

Wombat no fucking way I will tell anyone from spring where I play

Wow you just declared everyone from spring as idiots... why do you keep chatting here if we all suck so hard...? + why make a topic about Minecraft on Spring Forums if you hate everyone from spring, eheh.

Lol smoth has too many enemies on these forums, that's why.

Don't know if you actually play Minecraft? sounds like you don't. Anyway when you build your base, you place torches everywhere(it's quite ridiculous actually), which keeps monsters from spawning anywhere near your base. So this means that a bigger base becomes safer.

[Gota]

Or you can just dig a small cave put some torches there and your done...game over...
You know i truly think that the creative game style makes way more sense in Mincraft since it does not try to be something unsuccessfully like the survival game style it just proclaims its a first person lego and than you make the Star trek spaceship in full size...

[TradeMark]

it doesnt make sense... if its all about "creativity" then why is all minecraft images all about the monsters you run away?

and yet people say its not about building a castle but running away from monsters...

doesnt make any sense

Or you can just dig a small cave put some torches there and your done...game over...

Weird... i asked the exact same question before, but nobody answered i was right XD

[Cheesecan]

Lots of kids play Minecraft, age bracket 11-15. These kids have grown out of playing with legos, but still think monsters are pretty cool I guess? Pre-teens and teens with really short attention spans that don't like to just build cool stuff all alone by themselves.

Imho Minecraft is not even a beta product(although it claims to be) because I would say, only 30% of the game is finished. It's still like an early alpha. I think it's horrible how the guy got so much money already(I'm not against him getting paid, but shouldn't you get paid when you're done? When you buy this game, you have no idea of how much game content you are getting, except a promise that you will have free updates) for a product that's unfinished, but then again it is quite entertaining, but still, it's very very incomplete. Just need to look at the amount of mods out there to see that the Mojang development rate is not what it should be.

Here's an example of how it's incomplete. There are lots of items that have no use yet. Maybe 1 out of 6. And as the game is currently, it's very easy to lose interest after you "did" everything in the game, and that only takes a few hours really. After that, the only fun is in being creative, and sure if you are into that, you can entertain yourself with the game for quite long. Basically what the game is selling for is how it allows you to express your own creativity. It's not much of an actual game besides that. I think Minecraft could easily have been much better if it was a free open-source project with multiple developers and better support for mods.

Also it's pretty fucked up that people are reverse engineering his classes to make mods. Good reason not to use java for commercial games imho. Not many people can understand assembler from a c compiler, but lots of people can run java bytecode through some decompiler tool to get source code. It makes it too easy for people to violate your intellectual property.

[Gota]

Well Perhaps the best thing he can do now is to release the code :)

[smoth]

Lol smoth has too many enemies on these forums, that's why.

Trademark personaly stalks me in the hopes he can get a bit of rage out of me so he can live out the days where I was more reactive to trolling. All he has suceded in doing is essentially hardening me to trolls because of his constant low level attempts. No he has not tried minecraft at all and yan is only trying it so he can have his standard half assed "conversations" about it.

Wombat no fucking way I will tell anyone from spring where I play

Wow you just declared everyone from spring as idiots... why do you keep chatting here if we all suck so hard...? + why make a topic about Minecraft on Spring Forums if you hate everyone from spring, eheh.

Comments like this are supposed to rile my anger etc but honestly, it is just retarded. I mean look at the wild assertion, you would have to be mentally handicapped to believe it.

And as the game is currently, it's very easy to lose interest after you "did" everything in the game, and that only takes a few hours really.

yawn
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic ... 1&t=103166

Well Perhaps the best thing he can do now is to release the code :)

see link above yan. Before I start talking to you again, I am going to expect some personal effort. I am not sure if you are lazy or just trolling but your method of "conversation," where you talk about at topic from a completely cursory education of it and proceed to refuse any personal effort is unacceptable. "but I can dig a hole and hide," sure can.

[Teutooni]

I don't think Notch is worried about people altering/redistributing his code, MC hit a million sales mark yesterday... Which just shows how more and more sophisticated graphics and game engines are not necessary for profit in the gaming industry. He did the basic engine for MC in a week afaik.

Btw Yan, didn't you complain about Fallout New Vegas being too static with no procedural content? Well here you have procedural content and you are still complaining. Go play Dwarf Fortress or something... Oh, right, you don't like it because it's not 3d rendered.

[smoth]

fun part is people are actively modding minecraft without a source core release, makes you wonder what is in those .class files. supposedly better support for such modding is planned :)

[TradeMark]

lol @ smoth... wear off your troll glasses pls. not every negative question is trolling. you just use the word trolling to dodge my questions. and then you insult me as if that would be the answer to my questions...

[smoth]

keep trying just like your frequent "lol look smoth is raging" posts. You wonder why you are treated in a hostile manner.

[TradeMark]

stop talking shit... ive never said that

[Cheesecan]

Smoth you actually proved my point by linking to a mod. People are modding the game because it doesn't have enough content.

Trademark, don't deny you are trolling, you're in the Minecraft thread, you don't play the game, and you don't seem interested in taking it up either. You mostly seem focused on trolling smoth yes..

Notch did a great job cracking out an original concept, implementing it, but he has fallen behind now, people are consuming content much faster than he's creating it, he needs to get a real game developer team going.

[Hoi]

He made 10 million, he should have the funds to really improve the game and add content.

If he doesn't hurry up then we might see a fork, but one that works better with massive improvements and a lot of new content. Just imagine minecraft, but with addons you can disable and enable at will. In one game you could develop from stone age to modern age, and eventually make a spacecraft and go into space, on another map you can do a simple survivor mode, and on another map you can do other cool stuff.

4x4 or bigger crafting grids should be added (with more craftables), and it should not be so easy to get the very high quality materials, there should be challenges, strong monsters to fight and special mining on other planets or maybe in hell.

[TradeMark]

Trademark, don't deny you are trolling, you're in the Minecraft thread, you don't play the game, and you don't seem interested in taking it up either.

so everyone who is on spring forums but doesnt play or mod spring engine games, are trolls too?

I've been asking many times in this thread why is this game so epicly epic, but all answers are: "stop trolling"

[smoth]

Smoth you actually proved my point by linking to a mod. People are modding the game because it doesn't have enough content.

I think that the post proves that it is pretty ready for new content. we are seeing users quickly produce ample content and pretty flexible modifications. Given that he did hire an art guy to produce more content(which he has said already exists and is ready to go) I wonder how long until we see a new release with a lot of new content.

As far as his business model, I think he is going slow with it so he doesn't just hire a bunch of guys. Past soo many employees/team members it becomes hard to track who is on what and keep the communication really in a 1 to 1 way. Which is partly a problem and partly a good thing. I ran a successful project with a 12 man team, I spent 90% of the project doing management and only got to not be a manager when a coder was really stuck and needed help. I hated it, I didn't get to code, pretty much all creativity was relegated out to other coders.

Notch has been give a clear message that we do not want him to become a manager type. when minecraft started to become popular he made a commitment to stay true to the type of development that people loved(this was back when it was just indiefags buying it, few months ago, before all the kiddies.

Keep in mind if he goes the corporate throw money at the content until it is done approach, I think we will see a lesser project. This is just my opinion though.