Nice guys do not get girls... [contains immature language]

[dizekat]

well the point is that whatever the metric is (and indeed the metric is very complicated), chances are, you're better than 50% candidates out there. It is not as if only top 10% were getting laid.
Just think about it a little, some women are so desperate they even get breast implants to attract men LOL. I just don't understand this whole approach as if you had to "get" girls through some trickery. This is bullshit now, and it was even more bullshit in the past in hunter gatherer societies where men were dying hunting quite a lot and there were fewer men than women.
Why can't you people just stop seeing people of other sex as someone you could manipulate with trickery, men could then stop taking steroids for big muscles to attract girls, and girls could stop getting all sorts of plastic surgery etc and everyone could [various banned words] in harmony.

edit: hell, nevermind the surgery, just the makeup should be enough to make the point clear. How many of men here are desperate enough to spend as much time on appearance as average girl does?

[Gota]

How many of men there are desperate enough to spend as much time on appearance as average girl does?

These days?many.
Society is making men be more and more obsessive about their looks as well.

[dizekat]

How many of men there are desperate enough to spend as much time on appearance as average girl does?

These days?many.
Society is making men be more and more obsessive about their looks as well.

except that it is girly behaviour and thus not quite attractive for straight girls i think.

[Gota]

How many of men there are desperate enough to spend as much time on appearance as average girl does?

These days?many.
Society is making men be more and more obsessive about their looks as well.

except that it is girly behaviour and thus not quite attractive for straight girls i think.

K, loveguru XD

[Johannes]

Dize you imply it's attractive for lesbians?

[dizekat]

Dunno. You should try and see, maybe it is. Seriously though how many of you ever tried spending more time on your looks than on spring skillz?

[TradeMark]

girls love girly looking gi.. i mean men

there was a study about the physical changes in girls brain or something because people have started to use anti-pregnancy pills, which made them to like fa***ts (banned word here) looking men more.

Dunno. You should try and see, maybe it is. Seriously though how many of you ever tried spending more time on your looks than on spring skillz?

are you assuming we have tried hard to get girl but failed? this topic wasnt about spring players having problems with girls... and if i wanted to spend 5 hours a day on mai look, then that would be quite sick...

[dizekat]

no, my point is that girls are investing more time into getting guys than guys(especially spring players) invest time into getting girls.

[TradeMark]

really? i always thought girls do makeup just to look good, not to get a guy...

the problem with guys not getting girls is that when a guy gets lonely once, he most probably keeps that way. if a girl gets lonely, she wants to be un-lonely as hard as possible. There was a study about this. girls just cannot be alone, its built in their brain to seek company. but for men, its reversed: the lonelier they get, the lonelier they want to be. (depends on personality ofc, but the word lonely means you are completely alone, no friends to talk, nobody).

once or twice a year i read on the news that some 40-50 year old guy was found in his apartment, sitting at sofa, and having this nice mummified face look. died alone, nobody cared, except the guys who want their money.

[Sucky_Lord]

there was a study about the physical changes in girls brain or something because people have started to use anti-pregnancy pills, which made them to like fa***ts (banned word here) looking men more.

This makes no sense. Either she already had a boyfriend when she started taking the pills, meaning the pills had no say in which man she chose, or she doesn't have a boyfriend and is taking AP pills simply so she can be f**ked (banned word here) every other night by a series of random guys, meaning she is irrelevant to this topic as I fail to acknowledge anybody who would consider her a proper girlfriend.

[SinbadEV]

there was a study about the physical changes in girls brain or something because people have started to use anti-pregnancy pills, which made them to like fa***ts (banned word here) looking men more.

This makes no sense. Either she already had a boyfriend when she started taking the pills, meaning the pills had no say in which man she chose, or she doesn't have a boyfriend and is taking AP pills simply so she can be f**ked (banned word here) every other night by a series of random guys, meaning she is irrelevant to this topic as I fail to acknowledge anybody who would consider her a proper girlfriend.

Wow...

Some women are on the pill because it happens to treat certain hormone conditions (I knew one girl who was on it to reduce menstrual cramping pain and another to deal with chronic acne)... Additionally if you go on and off the pill it is kinda hard on your body, so if you start taking the pill for one guy and then break up you should probably stay on the pill unless you intend to be celibate for the next year or so... finally just because a person is on the pill and outside of a monogamous relationship doesn't mean they are going to hook up with random boys every night... in many cases women are on the pill as a precaution so that if they do meet the right boy and form a long term relationship they don't have to wait the month or so it takes for their bodies to catch up with their cycles or whatever (this may not apply to modern pills) before having sex... I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just that your view of the situation would be offensive to pretty much any of the girls I've ever known to be on the pill.

[Gota]

(depends on personality ofc, but the word lonely means you are completely alone, no friends to talk, nobody).

Thats super extreme...A person without any friends acquittance or family?

I am sure there are women in such situations as well.

I think there is a difference between people who are alone and those that are lonely...
People who are alone are just by themselves and are happy about it or or just dont care.
Lonely people are people who want to be connected to others but are unable to achieve that.

If someone dies alone but lived like he wanted is that a bad thing?Its only sad to those that feel a strong need to be around people or in strong relationships with people.

[dizekat]

(depends on personality ofc, but the word lonely means you are completely alone, no friends to talk, nobody).

Thats super extreme...A person without any friends acquittance or family?

I am sure there are women in such situations as well.

I think there is a difference between people who are alone and those that are lonely...
People who are alone are just by themselves and are happy about it or or just dont care.
Lonely people are people who want to be connected to others but are unable to achieve that.

If someone dies alone but lived like he wanted is that a bad thing?Its only sad to those that feel a strong need to be around people or in strong relationships with people.

agreed.

[Neddie]

Loneliness can sometimes be a condition arising from actual social isolation, but more often it is a feeling of isolation which may or may not be reflected in your social landscape. There is little that indicates men or women differ noticeably in their response to real or percieved solitude. In general, most people do not wish to be alone and consistently seek connection. Not all, of course, and those who seek connection may settle for a substitute such as a substance or activity addiction.

As for why people are encouraged to wear makeup or otherwise modify their appearance, there are a number of factors. Internalized social standards of beauty, discomfort with self-image, and the desire to attract a mate are all common reasons to manage your appearance which often coexist. The fact that appearance management is gendered as female is quite silly - both men and women manage their looks and have probably done so into prehistory. Sometimes the methods differ, but there is little difference in general intent. Some men cultivate facial hair to mask weak chins or acne scars, wear formal dress to accentuate their shoulders and match socks to slacks in order to appear taller. Some women pluck their eyebrows to soften their brows, squeeze into tight pants to accentuate their rears or shave their legs to appear smoother and cleaner.

[Gota]

hmmm interesting.Can you please give us a few more examples of how we manage our looks?

[Johannes]

hmmm interesting.Can you please give us a few more examples of how we manage our looks?

Working out for one

[Gota]

hmmm interesting.Can you please give us a few more examples of how we manage our looks?

Working out for one

I trapped the wrong fish XD

[dizekat]

well it is a fact that men have to work less on appearance.
on other note, chin enlargement is kind of popular among men wanting to make a career in upper management or the like, but thanks God it is nowhere near as prevalent as boob enlargement.

[Gota]

Hmm a pasty british guy with unhealthy looking teeth...is that the real joke there?

[Jazcash]

well it is a fact that men have to work less on appearance.
on other note, chin enlargement is kind of popular among men wanting to make a career in upper management or the like, but thanks God it is nowhere near as prevalent as boob enlargement.

I've watched all David Mitchell's Soapbox episodes from the very first one to the last, they're so accurate too ^_^