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PicassoCT
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New York Times on the end of forgetting, and how that threatens "tabula rasa- fresh start" that was part of the american way of life.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/maga ... wanted=all
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Doing something silly shouldn't doom your entire career, especially if it is perfectly legal. Before web2.0 forgetting past mistakes was the way, maybe we should evolve and learn to forgive?

Someone at the Millersville University School of Education should be dipped in burning feces... :P
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Dont ever post your pic anywhere on internet and dont use your real name.

I thought those were taught in elementary school already?
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I feel so sorry for that teacher for getting fired for having a picture of her wearing a pirate hat while drinking a little. She shouldn't have been fired for that, especially since people of all ages say all kinds of ridiculous things on the internet and because many people aren't all that knowledgeable about privacy issues. You kind of have to wonder if someone she knew at the school had it out for her. If that was true I think that the person who told the principle about the picture should have been fired for intentionally trying to destroy someone's career for no good reason.
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TradeMark wrote:Dont ever post your pic anywhere on internet and dont use your real name.

I thought those were taught in elementary school already?
Apparently Smoth and AF were too busy talking to internet pedos on the day they discussed that.

I only ever post pictures of my face after I've shooped it into being unrecognizable, that's the best compromise.
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It's not as bad as the article makes it out to be.

She was probably new at the university and they didn't know what kind of personality she had so they checked out her myspace and found that she liked to get drunk and post pictures of herself as 'Drunken Pirate' so they would assume that she is immature and not the kind of person they would want working at their respected university.

I'll bet it wasn't the only reason either, maybe she started raging when they said that the picture was inappropriate instead of apologizing.
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what?? you are really sick!

i do not know your personality, so do i have the right to use whatever means available to find out? eg... when you apply for a job or . whatever?

and you really say she should have apologized for having been drunk... some when, when she applied for a job? that is, with drinking alcohol being legal.
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It doesn't matter if it's legal or not

She might walk around dressed like a hooker and be a total drunkard but still be legal

I'm just saying, maybe finding this picture was the last straw in deciding that she wasn't a suitable student

Companies look at facebook/myspace all the time to get a real look at what their employees/applicants are like
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Undoubtably. such a prestigous university would not accept such scoundrals as Albert Einstein.

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Imagine what atrocities they would find on his facebook. The man was a womanizer after all, that and the affair with his first cousin and such. Disregard his huge contributions to physics and society, this man is scum!
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its only for poo people that such over stupid rules exist. in a way.. it is good to ignore such rules (eg, keep posting images of you, drunk, on facebook), cause if everyone would bow to these rules, they will get "law".
over here, when you want to study physics, you have to be good in all subjects in the preparing schools, which includes for example german, french, english and history. it is just as stupid, though there are much more people already accepting this as ok, or even good/required.
in basic school, most important subjects are french, german and math. no matter how good you are in math, if you are bad in the other two, you won't go studying anything or it will take you 3 years longer to get there.
example argument pro the current situation:
"when you study physics, you'll be part of the higher society, or at least an intellectual. therefore, you will meet other people from further away then your very region, and they may speak other languages. and you would leave a bad imagine if you could only talk to them in your native language or english."
and this is of course more important then having actually the ones best suited for physics actually studying the subject.
the quality of your argument(s) is comparable to the one i gave in "" above.

her walking around... however!! it does not mater!! you get it?!
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CaptainPoo wrote:She was probably new at the university and they didn't know what kind of personality she had so they checked out her myspace and found that she liked to get drunk and post pictures of herself as 'Drunken Pirate' so they would assume that she is exactly like pretty much every other university student ever
FTFY
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CaptainPoo wrote:She was probably new at the university and they didn't know what kind of personality she had so they checked out her myspace and found that she liked to get drunk and post pictures of herself as 'Drunken Pirate' so they would assume that she is exactly like pretty much every other university student ever
Not true, read the article.
After discovering the page, her supervisor at the high school told her the photo was ÔÇ£unprofessional,ÔÇØ and the dean of Millersville University School of Education, where Snyder was enrolled, said she was promoting drinking in virtual view of her under-age students. As a result, days before SnyderÔÇÖs scheduled graduation, the university denied her a teaching degree.
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Maybe the teacher hated her and was just looking for anything to sabotage her graduation

or maybe it's just a cover story, they say it was because of the picture but it is in fact because she is black :o
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I'm confused. Since when do you have to be professional in your extra-professional activities?

I thought only public figures like disney actors and politician had a commitment to say professional 24/24 7/7.
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zwzsg wrote:I'm confused. Since when do you have to be professional in your extra-professional activities?

I thought only public figures like disney actors and politician had a commitment to say professional 24/24 7/7.
I don't think that all public figures or politicians are always extra professionally in their off hours either. Plus, a lot of them have people there to help them maintain their public image so people won't randomly butcher their reputation and ruin their career. An ordinary student generally wouldn't have something like that. Besides for all we know she could have just been going to a costume party. I know people who regularly drink on Christmas and Halloween while dressed up in all kinds of costumes and put pictures up everywhere and they aren't penalized like that, nor should they be penalized in my opinion.
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A problem for me is that the police saves data about stupid things you might have done when you were young and never really erases it.
Or they believe your a political extremist and keep data about you etc etc.

In the 70's you could get kicked out of uni in X-city (not sure if that was even possible back then) and start the same subject again in Y-city because they didnt have the data.

Today everything is saved all your life and longer and everybody can have acces to it.

I dont have a problem with web 2.0 thats completely your thing because if you post sensitive data there youre an idiot period.
I dont use these networking sites at all.

I hav a problem with things you cant controll.
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Machete234 wrote:
I hav a problem with things you cant controll.
People are a problem, i agree.
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CaptainPoo wrote:Maybe the teacher hated her and was just looking for anything to sabotage her graduation

or maybe it's just a cover story, they say it was because of the picture but it is in fact because she is black :o
Denying graduation based on anything but failure in tests/assignments or breaking the law seems borderline illegal on the schools part.

In any case, anyone who has read the article now probably would consider twice about recommending that particular university. If people abuse web 2.0 like that, I think it'd be fitting that web 2.0 strikes back. Whenever shit like that happens people should just start boycotting. :P
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Machete234 wrote:Today everything is saved all your life and longer and everybody can have acces to it.

I dont have a problem with web 2.0 thats completely your thing because if you post sensitive data there youre an idiot period.
I dont use these networking sites at all.

I hav a problem with things you cant controll.
I don't think that the picture that she posted was sensitive data unless she lived in an area where alcohol wasn't allowed. Most of the people that I know socially drink alcohol, so it's pretty common where I live. I don't drink because I simply don't like it, but I don't have anything against social drinkers and wouldn't say that a picture of someone drinking was actually sensitive data. I doubt that most of the social drinkers that I know would think that their drinking in their off hours and posting a picture of themselves with a drink in their hand and a pirate hat on could cause them to loose their job, prevent them from graduating, or prevent them from getting a job either. They're not morons or anything either, it's just that an event like that is not something that they would foresee happening because drinking is a common part of our culture and because they don't know what the future holds.

As far as the networking thing goes, a lot of people get into that to keep in contact with their friends. If someone has a lot of friends who are on a social network site, they would probably feel were and get left out of a lot of things if they didn't join the network. I'm not particularly interested in things like Twitter, but I was required to join the site for a class one time, so I could see why someone might want to be on a social network. Besides, with the growing demand for people who know how to use such technology, it seems as though just telling people not join a social network is not the solution.
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Posting pictures of yourself on internet is same as screaming naked outside at the streets and wondering why you got in jail = stupid
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