Texturing a unit will get you into a play test!

[oksnoop2]

that's already textured...

You may want to check the google doc i link to in "PN Progress"

[knorke]

I did...
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... I_pg&gid=0



Con is yellow = UNTEXTURED WINGS MODEL

am i doing it wrong?

[oksnoop2]

Rawr! It should be green. Fixing that Right quick!!! Sorry my whole organizational system faltered right there. I'm on the lobby and mumble if you need to reach me in real time.

[knorke]

ok instead i will take the transport vehicle:
Tech1Plants\Vehicle Plant\Transport\Transport Vehicle.wings

[KaiserJ]

kaiser is go! (expect a downgraded gunship, as well as airplant, in the next week or so) so i can claim another beta spot to play LAN games with my friend (only fair, right?)

ppl who don't know squat about texturing but want to learn... this is a great way to get started and see your work in-game eventually. sign up!

[oksnoop2]

]Just to give people a better idea of what PN units should look like


It's actually terribly boring/easy texturing PN units. Mainly white with some black and gray and then PN on the unit somewhere. Some where at the start of this thread i list the swatch colors i use. Airplant is done by the way.

and

so i can claim another beta spot to play LAN games with my friend (only fair, right?)

I deem this to be fair.

[knorke]

hm i am having some trouble...
first is, when loading the transport vehicle it only shows as a green wireframe in wings3D. when faces are selected, they show.
So I made an uvmap, made it external and now the model shows - but only in black even though the uvmap/exported texture is white (with black borders between the parts.)
when i paint in the exported texture and do righlick -> "refresh" in the outliner window the model is still black. but "show" shows the correct texture and the mini preview thing does too.

I think it is a problem with the material settings or something. Sadly I have absolutely no idea how they work. Maybe the material is set to 0% brightness or its some stupid checkbox, no idea?!

[oksnoop2]

Sorry Knorke for the long wait on the reply, I just got back from a weekend camping trip. I opened up the model on my end and it was goofy as well. I think i fixed it though. Here's a link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/393829951/T ... wings.html

[knorke]

np, wops only noticed your posting because of the pm myself

sadly there is still something strange, if i select the transporter and do rightclick -> UV mapping it goes right to displaying the uv map window.
usually it should show a second 3D window where you select edges for cut and stuff.
like this:


instead it always goes to this:


did you already create that uvmap?
if i export that as texture, paint on it and refresh it shows ok in the uvmap window but the model still has no texture

i think i am doing it the correct way because i tested it by texturing something else, works fine:


Quite strange :/

[oksnoop2]

Did you try deleting the stuff in the outliner?

[knorke]

yes. it looks like this. after uvmapping it makes another entry with a mini preview of the texture. the preview works but its not on the model.
deleting the ktransportvehicle thing with the cube icon delets the model and the "default" m icon thing (material) will not go away if deleting.

the medium metal maker works too:

Uuuuh funky.

is it possible to copy only the geometry into a new file? i tried "clone" but it seems to keep the settings then.

[oksnoop2]

I'll be honest, i really have no idea what to do about this and i don't know what's wrong. I looked through the wings3d forum and found nothing pertaining to your problem.

[AF]

re-uv map it and assign a new material/texture?

[Pressure Line]

drag the texture entry in the outliner onto the 'default' material.

[knorke]

drag the texture entry in the outliner onto the 'default' material.

then opens some context menu with texture typ: gloss, bump, normal and other options but none does anything.

re-uv map it and assign a new material/texture?

how would i do this? when i click "unfold" again the shapes on the uvmap just go crazy (rotated, overlap etc)

I'll be honest, i really have no idea what to do about this and i don't know what's wrong. I looked through the wings3d forum and found nothing pertaining to your problem.

sorry, actually i wanted to contribute something but now i am just stealing your time lol :/

does it not just not work for me or is the same for everybody else btw?

[oksnoop2]

Are you using Projection to UV map?

[knorke]

FINALLY!
You have to select the whole model, rightlick, "vertix attributes", "remove all uv coordinates" I just found this by pure luck
Then it is possible to make a new uv map and the texture finally shows on the model.

[oksnoop2]

Cool!

[knorke]

i had some problems with uvmapping because the bottom/floor is two faces/plans. other parts are doubled too.
Is that because the transporter does have a moveable door at one side (is that front or back btw lol) and so that it will not be transparent from inside? But then again the axles are going through the inside.
Not sure but it seems the 2 faces for the sidewalls are actually "on top of each other?" Because in wings they flicker "z-fight" a bit not sure what spring has to say to this.

the axels consit of ~190 vertics btw although they are hardly visible. I dont think its so bad in this case but on units that are build more often it might be better to just use 4 or 6 sided cylinders there.

[Beherith]

Damn, I didnt notice this thread before, but here is the solution without having to remap uv:
Go into face mode, deselect all, right click/material... make new material
Select all faces, right click, assign to new material.
In outliner, pick up image, right click on new material and drop as diffuse.