Debian SID (semi) officials packages for Spring

[Agon]

KernelPanic is a game not a mod.

[Blue_Falcon]

game not a mod.

same difference, in spring at least.

[Neddie]

Not at all.

[Blue_Falcon]

whatever, my bad.

[jandd]

just saw that there is a bug report page on this site you linked, and there is a bug report there already.
now... i found this by chance, but it is unlikely that any of the spring devs will check this page regularly/ever. soo.. either somehow. turn off this reports page and link to mantis/our forum, or.. hmm. maybe i should just subscribe there :D
how marvelous, the modern techniques (mailinglists!!)

about this bug in particular...
as the reporter already suggested, it would help if there was a dbg package. we already talked about that... is such a package planned by you?

I reported the bug in Debian and just added it to the spring mantis bugtracker too http://springrts.com/mantis/view.php?id=1780

I added a forwarded tag to the Debian bug tracker.

[hoijui]

thanks you!
both for reporting here, in mantis and on debian, and for ending the offtopic :D (tz tz Agon! )

[mammadori]

ehh nice! congratulation!

just saw that there is a bug report page on this site you linked, and there is a bug report there already.
now... i found this by chance, but it is unlikely that any of the spring devs will check this page regularly/ever. soo.. either somehow. turn off this reports page and link to mantis/our forum, or.. hmm. maybe i should just subscribe there :D
how marvelous, the modern techniques (mailinglists!!)

Some bugs are reported by the debian maintainer to the upstream developer BTS.

I'll report bugs to Mantis linking the debian bug page.

We will not close the debian bug page, beacause it is both not possible and beacause we track also packaging bugs, which might not be interesting for you.

about this bug in particular...
as the reporter already suggested, it would help if there was a dbg package. we already talked about that... is such a package planned by you?

Yes, I'm working on it, it will be really huge, Spring unstripped is > 77 Mb!

I will push it soon.

[jandd]

about this bug in particular...
as the reporter already suggested, it would help if there was a dbg package. we already talked about that... is such a package planned by you?

Yes, I'm working on it, it will be really huge, Spring unstripped is > 77 Mb!

I will push it soon.

If you don't want to put this huge binary package in the normal Debian archive you could put it in some personal repo only.

Is it so large because of statically linking 3rd party libraries or is it just the spring code itself?

[koshi]

Debug symbols take a fair amount of space, but should also compress fairly well. Try compiling with -g3 to see real huge binary

[mammadori]

If you don't want to put this huge binary package in the normal Debian archive you could put it in some personal repo only.

I uploaded it to my personal repository and on mentors.debian.net, so it will be available on debian soon.

I uploaded also a -dbg version of springlobby, please do not open a wishlist bug for this or I have to rebuild and reupload with the "Closing:" clause.

Before it hits debian (you will receive automatically a mail when it will happen since you opened the wishlist bug), you can use the -dbg package available on my personal repository there:

http://alioth.debian.org/~mammadori-guest/pool/main/s/

You can add a couple of lines to your apt-sources list too if you want to track me, but beware, it is my playtest area, so you can also hit broken testing packages sometimes, use it at your own risk; it is always better to wait for good packages to enter official archives.

deb http://alioth.debian.org/~mammadori-guest/ sid main
deb-src http://alioth.debian.org/~mammadori-guest/ sid main

[jandd]

I uploaded also a -dbg version of springlobby, please do not open a wishlist bug for this or I have to rebuild and reupload with the "Closing:" clause.

Great, I will not file it

I will get the packages from your repo this evening and will hopefully provide better stacktraces when reporting further crashes.

Thanks for your work.

[jandd]

I uploaded version 0.81.1.3 of spring and 0.63.2 of springlobby to Debian unstable today. We (mammadori and me) updated to the new versions and improved the packaging.

[darvit]

Tell me if I'm wrong, but it looks like you can only get the package for Spring and all the necessary libraries, etc. Where can I get the package/mod for kernel panic and how can I install it?

[darvit]

Are there installers anywhere in here : http://alioth.debian.org/~mammadori-guest/pool/main/s/?

And what do they install and/or need (libraries)?

[Pxtl]

Tell me if I'm wrong, but it looks like you can only get the package for Spring and all the necessary libraries, etc. Where can I get the package/mod for kernel panic and how can I install it?

Spring packages are actually just a single zip file (renamed to .sdz for zip or sd7 for 7zip) containing all the game data. I don't know where they go in the Linux file structure - probably something like ~/spring/mods, but I can't be sure.

All spring packages are available on SpringFiles

http://www.springfiles.com/show_file.php?id=1685

The windows zip will contain the game and all the maps, but they will be laid out in a Windows directory-structure. If you're willing to copy the files to their corresponding folders, you should be fine (mods go in your mods folder, maps go in your maps folder).

http://www.springfiles.com/show_file.php?id=1684

[hoijui]

Code: Select all

~/.spring/mods
~/.spring/maps

The reason there are no packages for mods, is two fold: there are legal problems (eg. BA and .. basically all other *A mods use content from the original TA), and a lot of them change often.
for maps.. i guess there are no packages because they would get too big/too many, and unfunny to maintain, plus we now have relatively good downloading systems in place (in SL or SD), which instead of 50 maps you'll never use, get you always the map for the game you want to play next.

[Neddie]

If I recall correctly, part of why there are no map packages is that multiple times they have demanded the source material (Because, you know, Debian Legal and the FSF are insane/do not understand non-code content) which would entail hundreds of MB of data per map. Another contributing factor is that, by default, the mapper retains copyright but this is unclear, and releasing under another license or re-licensing seems pointless in view of the first demand.