Book I Will Never Finish: Leveraging Your Slacker

[Gota]

People who have success are often loud mouths?
WTF are you talking about...
There are only a few areas where you need to have a big mouth but look at all the richest people in the world..do they have a loud mouth?pffff they are quiet diligent and clever not loud and blunt.

[CarRepairer]

Person who is able to consistently work on project for long time and do boring things like bugfixing over and over again impresses me far more than random flashes of genius. Because I know that this first thing is harder, more rare and more important for success of any project.

But you also need real geniouses to make a good programm like john carmack (just read masters of doom- the biography).
You could argue that beeing a real genious is a gift and you cant be blamed if you have it or not, so the geniouses are "just" lucky

Fixing bugs often requires the real genius thinking because it's much harder to fix a bug than it is to write that buggy code.

[SinbadEV]

People who have success are often loud mouths?
WTF are you talking about...
There are only a few areas where you need to have a big mouth but look at all the richest people in the world..do they have a loud mouth?pffff they are quiet diligent and clever not loud and blunt.

Here's How I see it:

Genius*Motivation=Achievement

(100 being average Genius, 1 Being average Motivation, so the average person achieves %100 (100*1=100))

So the MOST successful people are Motivated Geniuses (150*2 = 300)
A person who has high Motivation or Genius will succeed to a certain degree (100*2 = 200 or 150 * 1 = 150)
A Slacker exhibits fractional motivation (between 0 and 1) so you get
(150 * 0.5 = 75) because they don't even have normal levels of motivation.

[Machete234]

People who have success are often loud mouths?
WTF are you talking about...
There are only a few areas where you need to have a big mouth but look at all the richest people in the world..do they have a loud mouth?pffff they are quiet diligent and clever not loud and blunt.

So bill gates is the best example for a person that is succesful?
Incredible luck is not a reason why he became so rich?

Why take the richest people in the world? Chances are you dont get extremely rich no matter what you do.
What about taking normal people as an example and not the pop stars?

Look at your boss who is maybe a moron, takes credit for you work and knows how to wrap his boss around his little finger.
Often producing hot air gets you promoted, people who should have the job of the hot air producer and have the right skills dont get promoted.

[1v0ry_k1ng]

motivation is infinitely more valuable than inherant intelligence.

get a fucking job !

[zwzsg]

But you also need real geniouses to make a good programm like john carmack (just read masters of doom- the biography).

Are you saying John Carmack didn't spent countless hour and massive amount of personal energy working on his projects?

[SinbadEV]

motivation is infinitely more valuable that inherant intelligence.

I completely agree... but I doubt you could argue that between two people with the same level of motivation the one with the higher level oh inherent intelligence would not have a higher degree of success... even if you do think that, the purpose of my book would be to provide employers or those in relationships with slackers to promote higher levels of motivation which is exactly what you are saying slackers need more of...

Wait, are you agreeing with me?

[Regret]

What does it matter who agrees with who?

Fact is you're a child craving for attention, crying about your lack of motivation and making up excuses such as people not being "wired" properly thus destined to be lazy etc.

Man the fuck up.

PS: equations for achievement? Really?

[SinbadEV]

What does it matter who agrees with who?

Fact is you're a child craving for attention, crying about your lack of motivation and making up excuses such as people not being "wired" properly thus destined to be lazy etc.

Man the fuck up.

wish I could, but that would take motivation, which I don't have because I'm lazy... sorry.

Also, I'm not entirely convinced I crave attention... if that were the case I would expect that getting positive attention for achievement would be a sufficient motivating factor.

[Regret]

wish I could, but that would take motivation, which I don't have because I'm lazy... sorry.

;-;

Also, I'm not entirely convinced I crave attention... if that were the case I would expect that getting positive attention for achievement would be a sufficient motivating factor.

Why do you keep making threads about you?

I see only you wanting attention, be it 'bad' or 'good'.

Did I mention staying in bed because your wife yells at you is just pathetic?

[SinbadEV]

This thread isn't about me, I rarely make threads about me... I just happen to often include some self-reference when I am an example of something being discussed... Okay, obviously I have constructed some significant self-delusion here and need to rethink my life.

[Regret]

Okay, obviously I have constructed some significant self-delusion here and need to rethink my life.

Yep.

[Machete234]

But you also need real geniouses to make a good programm like john carmack (just read masters of doom- the biography).

Are you saying John Carmack didn't spent countless hour and massive amount of personal energy working on his projects?

No you read things that arent there.

He was almost obsessed about making better engines , so you cant say he had to push himself.
All he wanted to do was to code, thats how the book describes it.
That guy tried to steal a computer when he was young.

Hes a genious because he did things that others couldnt do technically at that time.

[Regret]

massive amount of personal energy working on his projects

He was almost obsessed about making better engines , so you cant say he had to push himself.

Wait what?

[Machete234]

What exactly was unclear?
When you do what you want do do the most in life there is no lack of motivation.
There is also no real effort

[Regret]

There is also no real effort

NO EFFORT???

Are you serious?

[Machete234]

You need to push yourself to do some physically hard or boring work.
When you always ask yourself why am I doing this?

Then you need to make yourself get up every morning.
When you do what you like you junp out of bed.

I dont say he didnt work hard but he loved to do it thats a big difference.

[Machete234]

There is also no real effort

NO EFFORT???

Are you serious?

When you do what you love and basically make your hobby a job and get really rich doing that then you feel great and you dont feel like youre working.
I would trade places with such a person anytime.

But enough now I made it clear enough to understand.

[Pxtl]

I love working on code and hobby projects. I still procrastinate because it's still work.

[Tobi]

Before doing anything at all, first think what you will do for the next X time units (or alternatively: decide you'll do Y until it's finished). Then do it. And when finished, start again at the begin of this paragraph