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The mysterise of windows user files

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knorke
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Re: The mysterise of windows user files

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Brain Damage wrote:
knorke wrote:cool.
where would i set the path?
in registry?
the only registry keys i find seem to make doubleclick replay -> launch spring.
xp btw.
i you use springlobby, go to edit -> preferences -> spring
then click on change datadir
thanks, seems to work.
maps and mods are shared now.
perfect!
settings are still not unique for each install, but i can live with that.
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Forboding Angel
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Re: The mysterise of windows user files

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knorke, in each install delete springlobby.conf and springsettings.cfg, once youi do that, they will all start looking towards appdata, hence, shared settings :-)
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Caydr
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Re: The mysterise of windows user files

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I have to hand it to Microsoft, at first I was really against the idea of an appdata folder but really it makes sense.

For one thing, when I want to back up all my valuables, I can just copy the entire "users" folder to an external HDD - nothing valuable is in Program Files or elsewhere unless the developer of the program was a tard, which means I probably don't need their "appdata-ish" stuff anyway.

And Appdata should be hidden normally to keep it safe from DUMB PEOPLE. Yes, YOU. The only time someone needs to get at their appdata, they're having a technical problem, so they will ask once "where are my * kept?", find out, and know for future reference where their goodies are kept.

Only thing I don't understand is the local, locallow, roaming thing... but whatever, it's an improvement I think.
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knorke
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Re: The mysterise of windows user files

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Appdata should be hidden normally to keep it safe from DUMB PEOPLE. Yes, YOU. The only time someone needs to get at their appdata is all the time with spring when you dl new maps or mods
corrected.

I do not think the whole "special folders" of windows are that great tbh. I prefer paths like "c:\bla\" over "c:\settings and documents\my documents\knorke\bla" or whatever it is.
Maybe if other people use the pc too its cool.
Also these folders are always on the same drive as windows. (Yes, can be changed somewhere. Average user does not know.) Why should I keep "my music" on the same disk as the operation system? Or program settings?

The important thing is imo to keep OS, programs and files on seperate disks or at least partions.
For example if my windows should get broken i just format and reinstall it.
Programs and files stay.
With the user folders, everything would be lost.

And how should the dumb people back up their program settings if they do not know where they are stored or its hidden? That doesnt make sense.
For me, its more usefull when programs store their settings in text files. That are in the program folder next to the .exe
No left over broken configs after deleting/reinstalling the program or the OS. If every program saved settings that way, you would not even need to back up your appdata thing.
Also its easy to make a backup of your config or give it to someone else.
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BrainDamage
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Re: The mysterise of windows user files

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knorke wrote: The important thing is imo to keep OS, programs and files on seperate disks or at least partions.
For example if my windows should get broken i just format and reinstall it.
Programs and files stay.
With the user folders, everything would be lost.
wrong, you can simply relocate program files and/or docs & settings to a sep disk, then all settings will be automatically saved and loaded there
knorke wrote: And how should the dumb people back up their program settings if they do not know where they are stored or its hidden? That doesnt make sense.
For me, its more usefull when programs store their settings in text files. That are in the program folder next to the .exe
No left over broken configs after deleting/reinstalling the program or the OS. If every program saved settings that way, you would not even need to back up your appdata thing.
Also its easy to make a backup of your config or give it to someone else.
you do as i said earlier, actually, with docs & settings to a sep partition you can format the os partition & keep all your settings
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Caydr
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Re: The mysterise of windows user files

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knorke wrote:
Appdata should be hidden normally to keep it safe from DUMB PEOPLE. Yes, YOU. The only time someone needs to get at their appdata is all the time with spring when you dl new maps or mods
corrected.
Not rly. Maps and mods are stored in my documents/my games/spring/maps (or /mods) iirc. As should other game-related stuff, as you'll find things like Fallout 3 store their stuff there, iirc.
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