the roots of islamic terrorism

[Gota]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666759/posts

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An article about the roots of Islamic Terrorist and It's connection with the soviet efforts to gain influence in the middle-east throughout the cold war.

I think it's a nice perspective on how the soviet union might have been connected to what now,some call a"cultural conflict" between the west and Islamic world.

[smoth]

[Jazcash]

TL;DR

[Beherith]

I heres my theory: multiple wives->some men just wont ever have wives (especially from under educated lower classes) -> frustration. Add some easily manipulated fools to the mix and presto.

[Sleksa]

I just linked to an interesting article and am interested in the opinions of others.
Do the forum rules say i have to somehow "support" this thread to prevent it form being locked?

I'd say no but after seeing you post a topic containing only a single url several times.

We all come across several dozen interesting links and stories daily but we dont just spam them

[smoth]

you are not discussing, you are posting a link. At least bloggers post a few thoughts with their links.

[Pxtl]

Did you seriously just link to Freep with a straight face?

[lurker]

I'm going to delete any even slightly bad posts in this topic.

[SirArtturi]

I'm not going to go on a long discussion about this, because spring forums aint the place I want to go such discussion. But rather point out the issue, that even though soviet union might have had influence on Islamic terrorism and your so called "cultural conflict," it is just not that simple and only one way to construe the phenomenon.

It's like a big soup consisting of different conflicted political, religious and social interest, where the participants are unable to cope in logic and humane way but by fighting, violence and force throughout the history.

Well, this was pretty pointless babble and I see that you are just trying to give us some additional perspectives...

[bobthedinosaur]

Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed the read.

[KaiserJ]

summed nicely in this response at the bottom:

Sorry, but Islamic terrorism started long before Soviet Russia was even a gleam in Lenin's eye.

Different western powers have tried to use Islamic viciousness, but it has always come back to bite them.

it was an interesting read though.

[Gota]

I'm not going to go on a long discussion about this, because spring forums aint the place I want to go such discussion. But rather point out the issue, that even though soviet union might have had influence on Islamic terrorism and your so called "cultural conflict," it is just not that simple and only one way to construe the phenomenon.

It's like a big soup consisting of different conflicted political, religious and social interest, where the participants are unable to cope in logic and humane way but by fighting, violence and force throughout the history.

Well, this was pretty pointless babble and I see that you are just trying to give us some additional perspectives...

I didn't say I'm calling it a cultural conflict,i wrote some do.
And i agree.
Of course the present day situation is not the result of only what is written about in the article.

[KaiserJ]

im aware that you live in the middle east; which is a lot closer to all of this madness than most of us. what are your own thoughts on the political unrest in the region?

after all, all we get is the outsiders perspective; ive never set foot there... so all of the information available to me is second hand.

my own opinion is that the small states in that region use funding from larger, more powerful countries to fight their battles... by fuelling the fire, major world powers are able to take over land, start wars, incite acts of terrorism and violence, all the while keeping their hands clean. the people who live in the region, i would guess, would rather be left alone... but at the same time if someone handed me a rifle and said "over there is the man who killed your family" then i think the choice for me would be pretty clear.

the only media outlet i really *trust* that i've EVER seen in terms of documenting conflict in the region is vbs.tv, and really they are there to shock you and make you feel happy about where you live rather than offering an opinion or a conclusion... but perhaps that comes with being unbiased, who knows

[Forboding Angel]

Well keep in mind that some of these countries are filthy stinking rich anyway (like Saudi Arabia).

It's an interesting concept. I imagine that russia has had dealings with islamic countries before over weapons deals and whatnot, but like kaiser said, it seems that any time any remotely western country tries to deal with these people. they just get bitten in the ass.

[SpliFF]

The countries get bitten in the ass, yes. The companies, aristocrats, parties and leaders who actually support, sponsor, supply arms and inflame these wars walk away with trillions and/or a place in history. It's been that way with every war, Middle Eastern or otherwise.

Religious and cultural tension exists in all places, the Middle East really isn't that special in that regard. What makes them special is the massive oil reserves. That's why superpowers find themselves embroiled there, they won't leave the oilfields unguarded for the next invader or the local population (or warlords) to control.

Oil (and control of supply lines) is why Obama is talking about Al Queada in Yemen. What's actually happening there is a civil war which has lost the US-backed northern government control of newly discovered oil fields. A US naval presence would also give control over important Gulf oil shipping routes. I think its safe to say an event of some sort requiring immediate large-scale deployment to Yemen is being planned in Washington as we speak.

So basically the "roots of Islamic terrorism", at least as far as modern events go, is pretty much oil and Israel. As far as historical animosity goes you'd have to go back centuries, probably millenia. It isn't something that can be fully explored through a forum topic. There are books on this to fill whole libraries.

[tombom]

summed nicely in this response at the bottom:

Sorry, but Islamic terrorism started long before Soviet Russia was even a gleam in Lenin's eye.

Different western powers have tried to use Islamic viciousness, but it has always come back to bite them.

it was an interesting read though.

Never quote freep posts, they always have something hideously racist in them

[PicassoCT]

I d like to add, that the troublemakers of the of the middle east (iran and saudi arabia- and there spawns- Hizbullah and various militant islamistic gangs) are looking pretty aggressive at the moment, but where do they get that energy from? The ironic thing is that we in the west fueled there little campaigns with money, technology so what looks like a mighty, firy force on the move, may just be a distorted reflection of our own peakpower. Just imagine a world without oil for a second...

[Gota]

Everyone is imagining it and nobody knows where were gonna get out energy from.

[PicassoCT]

Hamsters on Speed will drive generators and cars, you will see, i had visions of that, its the truth!

[Forboding Angel]