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SpliFF
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Re: The Next Big Bang?

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Well, would you use your own head to test the 'safety' on a gun?

People are stupid, scientists are people. I'm not feeling any safer.
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Panda wrote:
Das Bruce wrote:
smoth wrote:separate. We have no current way to acess the brain and properly read it. It would pretty much end the search for self.
The main problem is that the brain is spaghetti code. Also, there is no soul, half an hour reading about how brains work could tell you that.
There are theories out there that say that the soul is not located in the brain, just wanted to let you know that.
Theres also theories that the soul is spaghetti monster, just letting you know
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JohannesH wrote:Theres also theories that the soul is spaghetti monster, just letting you know
I'm not sure what the Pastafarians believe about the human soul... I'm working on the "mystical puppet master outside of the confines of space-time" as it's the only thing that makes true free-will REALLY make sense.

Can we get back to discussing semisolids and nano-technology now?
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robowhores.
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HUD Goggles that overlay information on your field of vision are a good bet
i saw this actually; a prof from UofT had synced glasses like that with GPS and spacial information... you could put the glasses on and look at a building, and it would tell you what the building contained; somewhat basic things centred around downtown toronto... but it's a start.

i'd settle for ones that drew naked tits onto girls when i looked at them
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SpliFF wrote:Well, would you use your own head to test the 'safety' on a gun?

People are stupid, scientists are people. I'm not feeling any safer.
Wow, that story is just plain messed up. What an idiot. As any gun owner will tell you:

Rule 1: The gun is ALWAYS loaded (even if you just unloaded it).
Rule 2: Never aim a gun at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
Rule 3: Never point an unloaded weapon at another person (for reasoning, refer to rule number 1).
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maybe he wanted to make a suicide that doesnt make people cry, but laugh.
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maybe he wanted to make the next big bang
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This is the next big bang: http://www.hoc.hu/upload/news/19562_MSI_P55_07L.jpg

(I've got one of these in my HTPC)
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Rule 1: The gun is ALWAYS loaded (even if you just unloaded it).
Rule 2: Never aim a gun at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
Rule 3: Never point an unloaded weapon at another person (for reasoning, refer to rule number 1).
Why do you need 3 rules? Rule 2 covers them all.
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Next big bang? Brain implants enhancing memory and senses and perhaps even other cognitive abilities. Augmented reality implants (or glasses at first). HCI-implant capable of communicating with other devices wirelessly, sort of like a multi-purpose remote controller/internet access in your brain - Technokinesis/Technopathy.

Well, maybe not the next thing in the horizon, but certainly big bang. :P
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brain implants... oh yeah, cant wait to get a video recorder in my eyes.
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I vote for wet-wiring.

"Neural internet" is a theme Peter F Hamilton deals with in pretty much all his books. It changes its name (neural nanonics, e-butler, wet-wiring) but it's the same concept. It's more than a HUD; it's wired into your thought patterns in a way that makes accessing planetary databases as natural as thinking. Not only that but it allows "matrix" like loading of skills like kung-fu or chopper piloting. When you interface with an unfamiliar vehicle or system you can access "memories" and "instincts" stored there that are practically indistinguishable from your own.

He even goes further to look at the social and personal possibilities of such tech. Some of the more interesting are a "gaia" field, where people share feelings and a "multiple person", where you load your thoughts into clone bodies and share your consciousness; to basically live the dream of being in two (or more) places at once. He also looks at using the tech for immortality, backing up your consciousness for loading into a clone when you die.

He also deals with the downsides, like being imprisoned and tortured in your own thoughts or dealing with reality when your wet-wiring crashes.
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SpliFF wrote:backing up your consciousness for loading into a clone when you die.
i go even further: people realise theres no such thing as soul or afterlife, and everyone makes suicide, except nerds, they see no difference between cloning and trolling.
SpliFF wrote:tortured in your own thoughts or dealing with reality when your wet-wiring crashes
i dont see why theres such need after they all live at internet (matrix) after all, just ban the persons from your sight that annoys you.

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When you think how brains work, they work pretty much the same as humans on this planet... creating networks and storing data... think about that eh. we already are a brain, and that just proves the consciousness is just an illusion. there might be a consciousness along us that we are not aware of... maybe that is the "god" we talk about...
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TradeMark wrote:When you think how brains work, they work pretty much the same as humans on this planet... creating networks and storing data... think about that eh. we already are a brain, and that just proves the consciousness is just an illusion. there might be a consciousness along us that we are not aware of... maybe that is the "god" we talk about...
They don't work just like a network. When training to learn a new technique or skill (physical or mental) it affects the type of chemicals produced and released into the brain, the shape of your neurons and receptors, the capacity of the neaurons to pick up on chemical messages, the shape of the intricate pattern of neurons displayed by the whole brain, the way it reacts to a stimulus, and whether or not there are traces of certain neurological pathways that were present in the past but either no longer in use or there. A network can not do all of that through training.

In addition to that the structure of the neurons in the brain have genetic predispositions towards the kinds of shapes and chemicals that they are capable of producing. The types of hormones produced by glands in the brain area can be influenced by a stimulus outside of the brain (such an emotionally charged event) meaning that our experiences affect the shape of and how our brains funtion to where we each have our own unique brain. It can also be proven that genes which activate the release of chemical messages which direct the physiological processes that our bodies go through can be flipped on and off like a lightswitch by an outside source. An example of this is the gene that controls bacterial organisms in our bodies' ability to digest the lactose contained in milk. We don't know everything about the brain or all of those details as to what neuron or set of neurons does what, or how to fix a lot of problems in the brain associated with things like Parkinson's or Alzheimer's disease because these things show us that the brain is much more complicated than a computer network and that it does a more than just store data. It interacts with the world like a living thing (with all of the characteristics of a living thing) even though it is contained within an aqueous environment.
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what did you say, i stopped reading after "They don't work just like a network" i think it was enough

why are you writing more than 3 lines of text... waste of time
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because your post seemed ill-informed with a lot of assumptions. Knowing her she was probably trying to give you some information.
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smoth wrote:because your post seemed ill-informed with a lot of assumptions. Knowing her she was probably trying to give you some information.
That's right.
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smoth wrote:because your post seemed ill-informed with a lot of assumptions. Knowing her she was probably trying to give you some information.
Panda wrote:That's right.
Stop treating trolls like real people.
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