Chicken or Egg?
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Chicken or Egg?
Post your side to this argument...perhaps explain it:
Which came first, chicken or egg?
Which came first, chicken or egg?
- [K.B.] Napalm Cobra
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Egg laying is a very old system, the ancestors of chickens were not recognisable as chickens. Those creatures probably did lay eggs, so the eggs where first... or were they?
If we loosen our definition of chicken to the point where we can include all its ancestors, our argument travels back to the point where eggs became part of the reproductive process. Now there clearly must have been creatures around before they used eggs and if we can call them ancestors of chickens then the chickens win.
If we loosen our definition of chicken to the point where we can include all its ancestors, our argument travels back to the point where eggs became part of the reproductive process. Now there clearly must have been creatures around before they used eggs and if we can call them ancestors of chickens then the chickens win.
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- SwiftSpear
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Again, that depends on what you classify a chicken as. If you want to be as leniant as classifing single celled organisms as chickes, purley because chickens evolved from said organisms, then yes, chickens split in half to reproduce. But the chicken still came came first in that scenario. But if we are being as leniant as to classify a single celled organism as a chicken, what is an egg clacified as?
- SwiftSpear
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You drove the logic boat off the waterfall! I WANT MY JOKE BACK!Maelstrom wrote:Again, that depends on what you classify a chicken as. If you want to be as leniant as classifing single celled organisms as chickes, purley because chickens evolved from said organisms, then yes, chickens split in half to reproduce. But the chicken still came came first in that scenario. But if we are being as leniant as to classify a single celled organism as a chicken, what is an egg clacified as?
Eggs where being layed before birds existed, and lifeforms walked, ran or flew, back when all mobile life was under the sea. I'm talking about things like fish. Now I dont think that can be classed as a chicken.
To many people think that when we say egg we mean a chicken egg, or the egg that laid the first chicken.
So the egg came first.
To many people think that when we say egg we mean a chicken egg, or the egg that laid the first chicken.
So the egg came first.
- Lindir The Green
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It really depends on what you classify as a chicken and what you classify as an egg.
If you classify a chicken as a member of the species [insert latin name for chicken here] and an egg as the first cell of any organism, then the egg must have come first because there were organisms before members of the chicken species.
If you classify an egg as an ellipsoid object that commonly comes out of a female chicken, then the chicken must have come first to produce that egg.
If you classify an egg as the ellipsoid object that given the right curcumstances will become a chicken, then the egg must have come first to produce the first chicken. But you could argue that the egg was the same as the first chicken, and therefore they both came at the same time.


If you classify a chicken as a member of the species [insert latin name for chicken here] and an egg as the first cell of any organism, then the egg must have come first because there were organisms before members of the chicken species.
If you classify an egg as an ellipsoid object that commonly comes out of a female chicken, then the chicken must have come first to produce that egg.
If you classify an egg as the ellipsoid object that given the right curcumstances will become a chicken, then the egg must have come first to produce the first chicken. But you could argue that the egg was the same as the first chicken, and therefore they both came at the same time.

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- Targ Collective
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Ofcourse your all missing the obvious...
It doesn't matter which came first, what actully counts is what came last. Did the chicken lose the race? Afterall, he had to cross the road aswell for no apparent reason. However the egg is not a total spherical shape so it would be liable to go of course when rolling... Then again the chicken can only run so fast and I expect a rollling egg will have a much greater terminal vellocity, so if its a down hill race its egg all the way. If up hill, well god knows what the egg does?
Difficult...
aGorm
It doesn't matter which came first, what actully counts is what came last. Did the chicken lose the race? Afterall, he had to cross the road aswell for no apparent reason. However the egg is not a total spherical shape so it would be liable to go of course when rolling... Then again the chicken can only run so fast and I expect a rollling egg will have a much greater terminal vellocity, so if its a down hill race its egg all the way. If up hill, well god knows what the egg does?
Difficult...
aGorm