Living quality
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Living quality
What is the minimum wage in your country/state(plz state what it is) and what kind of living quality can you efford with that salary(roughly)?
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Estonia.
Average income is around 1000-1100 USD per month (might be less by now thanks to massive cuts everywhere still going on).
For 1000 USD a single person can live quite OK-ishly. An average flat is around 500 USD (+~100 during warm months and up to +300 during very cold months).
Public transport is quite cheap. A full month pass with everything to everywhere (within city limits) is around 30$ for an adult and around 15$ for everyone under 26 years of age.
Food is very cheap when compared to a country like Denmark (spent some time there) and more or less even with the US.
For comparison, a 10 pack of regular chicken eggs was about 8$ in denmark, it is about 1.2-1.5$ here.
Beer is about 1.2$ per 0.5, vodka about 8$ per 0.5.
All in all, average income here can get you through quite nicely if you manage well, but as soon as you want a car or have loans or a family its going to get real tough.
Average income is around 1000-1100 USD per month (might be less by now thanks to massive cuts everywhere still going on).
For 1000 USD a single person can live quite OK-ishly. An average flat is around 500 USD (+~100 during warm months and up to +300 during very cold months).
Public transport is quite cheap. A full month pass with everything to everywhere (within city limits) is around 30$ for an adult and around 15$ for everyone under 26 years of age.
Food is very cheap when compared to a country like Denmark (spent some time there) and more or less even with the US.
For comparison, a 10 pack of regular chicken eggs was about 8$ in denmark, it is about 1.2-1.5$ here.
Beer is about 1.2$ per 0.5, vodka about 8$ per 0.5.
All in all, average income here can get you through quite nicely if you manage well, but as soon as you want a car or have loans or a family its going to get real tough.
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Minimal wage says little.
For example here in Czech republic you get various social "bonuses" which depend on many things.
There is so called "living minimum" which depends on stuff like where you live (prices of houses in given city), who lives with you (alone, with parents), if you have kids, if you have property you can sell etc.
If you are below minimum calculated for you, you will be given enough to get back to that minimum.
And if you lose job you also get social security but its different mechanism than living minimum.
Living minimum is calculated so that you have enough for basic stuff - food, house, clothes etc, you can also ask state for extra cash in case something you need breaks up (like boiler breaking up and you lack money).
My family lived under that minimum for several years even though my mother had job during that time, she was still receiving extra bonuses to get to minimum. But I never noticed any lack of money. During that time i even got chance to replace old 8bit computers with my first IBM PC (it was in 1995 or so).
Minimal wage is $2.7/hour, but basically if you had so little it would mean you are under living minimum in most cases and you get extras from state anyway.
Average is $1500. Flat costs are various, in smaller cities it can be <$100, in biggest cities its usually around 300-600. House or flat mortage usually costs about same per month.
For food I need about $120-150/month (mostly restaurants).
Healthcare is free, universities free.
I spend some money on holidays/traveling each year and otherwise use excess to be able to work less and do fun stuff more :)
But I know people who have expensive mortage for new flats and barely have enough due to poorly payed jobs.
For example here in Czech republic you get various social "bonuses" which depend on many things.
There is so called "living minimum" which depends on stuff like where you live (prices of houses in given city), who lives with you (alone, with parents), if you have kids, if you have property you can sell etc.
If you are below minimum calculated for you, you will be given enough to get back to that minimum.
And if you lose job you also get social security but its different mechanism than living minimum.
Living minimum is calculated so that you have enough for basic stuff - food, house, clothes etc, you can also ask state for extra cash in case something you need breaks up (like boiler breaking up and you lack money).
My family lived under that minimum for several years even though my mother had job during that time, she was still receiving extra bonuses to get to minimum. But I never noticed any lack of money. During that time i even got chance to replace old 8bit computers with my first IBM PC (it was in 1995 or so).
Minimal wage is $2.7/hour, but basically if you had so little it would mean you are under living minimum in most cases and you get extras from state anyway.
Average is $1500. Flat costs are various, in smaller cities it can be <$100, in biggest cities its usually around 300-600. House or flat mortage usually costs about same per month.
For food I need about $120-150/month (mostly restaurants).
Healthcare is free, universities free.
I spend some money on holidays/traveling each year and otherwise use excess to be able to work less and do fun stuff more :)
But I know people who have expensive mortage for new flats and barely have enough due to poorly payed jobs.
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minimum wage in my province (i live in Ontario, Canada) is $9.50.
from amongst my own and my friends experience, the maximum you can expect to be raised to in a "no upward mobility" sort of job (lets say becoming the night manager of your local fast food joint... and sorry if theres a night manager of a local fast food joint reading this) is about $15 per hour.
you'd make about $1500 per month on $9.50 working 8 hours a day... you could get a reasonably nice appartment in my city for $900 inclusive (although it will either be out in the sticks or downtownish in a not-so great area) which leaves $600 for living expenses like food, transit, cable bill, etc. (transit pass is about $100 a month)
in short, im glad i make much more than $9.50, as i probably spend at least $500 at the bar every month as a rough estimate. i would be able to have an appartment, take the bus, get shitfaced, and not much else.
conversely, when im able to hire people (its only ever a temporary thing for a few weeks) i generally give at least $15 per hour when its unskilled work (lifting bricks, that sort of thing) and upwards of $20 when it's something skilled.
my city is one of the more expensive places in canada to live.
edit : licho, i think the high mortgage / low pay trap is something that pretty much everyone has to deal with unless you're talking about countries where they make huts out of sticks and poo.
from amongst my own and my friends experience, the maximum you can expect to be raised to in a "no upward mobility" sort of job (lets say becoming the night manager of your local fast food joint... and sorry if theres a night manager of a local fast food joint reading this) is about $15 per hour.
you'd make about $1500 per month on $9.50 working 8 hours a day... you could get a reasonably nice appartment in my city for $900 inclusive (although it will either be out in the sticks or downtownish in a not-so great area) which leaves $600 for living expenses like food, transit, cable bill, etc. (transit pass is about $100 a month)
in short, im glad i make much more than $9.50, as i probably spend at least $500 at the bar every month as a rough estimate. i would be able to have an appartment, take the bus, get shitfaced, and not much else.
conversely, when im able to hire people (its only ever a temporary thing for a few weeks) i generally give at least $15 per hour when its unskilled work (lifting bricks, that sort of thing) and upwards of $20 when it's something skilled.
my city is one of the more expensive places in canada to live.
edit : licho, i think the high mortgage / low pay trap is something that pretty much everyone has to deal with unless you're talking about countries where they make huts out of sticks and poo.
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Well this guy makes me laugh sometimes
Its the most powerful person here - premier of Czech republic, and in the background, few stories high is his apartment.
He lives in crappy communist-era apartment block and refused to move when he got the premier post.
Its funny, even I have like 2 classes better place to live. I read its driving his gorillas mad, they have to guard whole apartment block.
Last week he got elected to be EU commissioner(they have $360 000/year and for 5 years) - but he refused it, saying he wants to finish few last months of his term here instead.
Well I guess at least some are not in politics for money lol..
Its the most powerful person here - premier of Czech republic, and in the background, few stories high is his apartment.
He lives in crappy communist-era apartment block and refused to move when he got the premier post.
Its funny, even I have like 2 classes better place to live. I read its driving his gorillas mad, they have to guard whole apartment block.
Last week he got elected to be EU commissioner(they have $360 000/year and for 5 years) - but he refused it, saying he wants to finish few last months of his term here instead.
Well I guess at least some are not in politics for money lol..
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Can you guys loan him to us?Licho wrote:Well this guy makes me laugh sometimes
Its the most powerful person here - premier of Czech republic, and in the background, few stories high is his apartment.
He lives in crappy communist-era apartment block and refused to move when he got the premier post.
Its funny, even I have like 2 classes better place to live. I read its driving his gorillas mad, they have to guard whole apartment block.
Last week he got elected to be EU commissioner(they have $360 000/year and for 5 years) - but he refused it, saying he wants to finish few last months of his term here instead.
Well I guess at least some are not in politics for money lol..
This is a UberPolitician.
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Well if you become unhappy with Brown specimen provided by Jazcash, I can ask him.Gota wrote: Can you guys loan him to us?
He even declares himself to be jewish, though it does not exactly increase your popularity here.
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I wonder if he is hiding millions in some offshore bank account.Licho wrote:Well if you become unhappy with Brown specimen provided by Jazcash, I can ask him.Gota wrote: Can you guys loan him to us?
He even declares himself to be jewish, though it does not exactly increase your popularity here.
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1v0ry_k1ng
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brown is pro at destroying national economy and not much else
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Spawn_Retard
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He did a good job for what state our country was already in.
It could have been anyone and it would have still ended the same way, why do you think tony blair left when he did?
It could have been anyone and it would have still ended the same way, why do you think tony blair left when he did?
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impressive. he would have my vote.He lives in crappy communist-era apartment block and refused to move when he got the premier post.