The Guardian should be renamed

[TheFatController]

Moho Defender

[Blue_Falcon]

"Project Firestorm"

Talking about which, the CORE Firestorm from TA:CC should be added

[Gota]

1v1, Brazilian Battlefield, guardian on the middle = win

Lets go 10 games 1v1 on BB you try and build a guardian. ^^

[1v0ry_k1ng]

artillery is discouraged because if it works noobs build nothing else

[Tired]

Brazilian Battlefield and 15 more Thuds than you have vs. Guardian = win.

Guardians are not meant for defense or offense. They're meant for area control. They can't stop an assault, and they can't break enemy defensive lines - only move them back a little. Given that they cost more than half of the metal you need to tech (where much better options become available) and have the dps of a LLT (that's right - LLT dps = HLT dps = Guardian dps, rounding slightly), Guardians blow.

[Gota]

The guardian in BA actually hurts the game more than it helps it since noobs constantly try and build them.
Remove it already.

[hoijui]

maybe make a noob widget (activated by default), that triggers warning messages on certain events. eg when building a guardian, it rings an alarm sound (like com beeing attacked), plus have some big swinging text on screen (like the eyes widget). maybe there are other events that could make it go crazy.

[Gota]

Yeah lets make tons of widget telling noobs what units are noob traps..or maybe just maybe those units can just be removed or actually balanced in?(yeah crazy idea).

[Jazcash]

Flagship has no flag. Do want.

[mar3moset]

Yeah lets make tons of widget telling noobs what units are noob traps..or maybe just maybe those units can just be removed or actually balanced in?(yeah crazy idea).

So tell us what YOUR noob units are if you think almost all of them are that useless I do agree Guardian isnt that useful for its metal cost....How bout we just put the guardian and plasma cannons on towers and thin them out a bit and make them short range plasma cannons like in NOTA...Since it would probably be more effective against the annoying stumpy spam.....Does anyone know the stumpies direct counter? I mean stun drones and dragons teeth are a decent way of stopping them from running by but what exactly will be able to kill those things in a head on fight, raiders have more health but they dont do as nearly as much damage.

[Gota]

Before you spew bs go and check the numbers first.
There is no excuse to not check them.

[Gedanken]

Flying guardian would be pretty win let's have that in T1 air lab thanks guys but lower cost of course lol

[Jools]

"Project Firestorm"

Talking about which, the CORE Firestorm from TA:CC should be added

There is no unit called Firestorm in TA:CC

[Blue_Falcon]

Well... I have a copy of OTA+CC+BT (Maybe BT?).

The CORE has an immobile turret called the Firestorm, built by (all??) T2 constructors.

[zwzsg]

There is no unit called Firestorm in TA:CC

QFT!

Maybe you mean the dual buzzsaw from the T.M.U. modding group?

[TradeMark]

If you want to rename Guardian, you should rename all other units as well, since they doesnt make any sense.

For example, Krogoth, what does it even mean? Seriously, or what does Bantha mean? some fucking star wars fictional animal name omg...!!

IMO Krogoth and Bantha should be renamed as Mobile Armored Nuclear Bomb

[Pxtl]

Well... I have a copy of OTA+CC+BT (Maybe BT?).

The CORE has an immobile turret called the Firestorm, built by (all??) T2 constructors.

You sure you're not thinking of the Immolator? But that was L1. Iirc, that's the only real unit that was totally gutted out of AA/BA. Would be nice to see it back, considering that Arm has more selection for L1 kbots.

[Blue_Falcon]

Well... I have a copy of OTA+CC+BT (Maybe BT?).

The CORE has an immobile turret called the Firestorm, built by (all??) T2 constructors.

You sure you're not thinking of the Immolator? But that was L1. Iirc, that's the only real unit that was totally gutted out of AA/BA. Would be nice to see it back, considering that Arm has more selection for L1 kbots.

No, I'm not. I tested it yesterday just to be sure.

TA + CC + BT, and the T2 conbot has the "Firestorm" in its buildmenu. The description is "Flamethrower Swarm Defense".

[zwzsg]

Then it's an unknown third party units.

For there are no firethrowing turrets in any of the official Cavedog units.

[Blue_Falcon]

Then it's an unknown third party units.

For there are no firethrowing turrets in any of the official Cavedog units.

Except the Dragon's Maw and the Pyro?

To me, it always looked like they hurled mud at the units xD

And I don't recall installing any 3P units >_>