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[Gota]

^ Guy is noob,what he wrote is wrong.
I have one question about icons.
The color of the icons is your team color right?
So what happens when my team color is dark so i cant see the symbols?
They did nothing about it in Supcom and it was annoying as hell cause anyone playing with a dark color had a hard time trying to understand what was going on.
This needs sorting.

[1v0ry_k1ng]

^ Guy is noob,what he wrote is wrong.
I have one question about icons.
The color of the icons is your team color right?
So what happens when my team color is dark so i cant see the symbols?
They did nothing about it in Supcom and it was annoying as hell cause anyone playing with a dark color had a hard time trying to understand what was going on.
This needs sorting.

when you select units, the team color of the icon is white, making the icon clearly visible. it does help not to play as black, though.

[zwzsg]

The icon exemples in this thead are all inside a square laying on its tip. The differences are in the icon within the icon. That's stupid, since the whole point about them was to allow player to differentiate units. So remove the outter square, keep only the icon within it, enlarging it.

[Pxtl]

iirc, the diamond is used to represent chassis type. Other chassis will have different shapes.

make it a pyramid of As maybe?

WDTSF?

[smoth]

Anti-air artillery.

that is the name.

[Pxtl]

Ah. Was confused by the 3rd A.

[Army Unit]

^ Guy is noob,what he wrote is wrong.

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I can't play Spring very often, so you could be right.

I only play as Aliens, and since their firepower is so high, it doesn't really matter what it is, if it's there, kill it.

[AF]

It would appear that playign as black gives a HUGE gameplay advantage ebcause ti means your units are indistinguishable. Since the only way to figure out what they are is to select them, and by deifnition they are enemy units and thus usnelectable, you have thus been given free camouflage of epic proportions.

[Army Unit]

It would appear that playign as black gives a HUGE gameplay advantage ebcause ti means your units are indistinguishable. Since the only way to figure out what they are is to select them, and by deifnition they are enemy units and thus usnelectable, you have thus been given free camouflage of epic proportions.

lol, would it be possible to make the symbols turn white if the team color is too dark?

[zwzsg]

It would appear that playign as black gives a HUGE gameplay advantage ebcause ti means your units are indistinguishable. Since the only way to figure out what they are is to select them, and by deifnition they are enemy units and thus usnelectable, you have thus been given free camouflage of epic proportions.

I had the same problem of black giving huge camouflage advantage for KP, so made a team recoloring widget. Feel free to grab it. Or write yet another one.

[1v0ry_k1ng]

same as playing white (as all players icons are white when selected,) especially on a snow map.
decent hosts + players can easily prevent people playing with haxx colors, and as for pub games full of noobs, stackers and exploiters, its pretty hard to care.

[j5mello]

Couldn t you just outline the weapon icon with a small white border that way black team color will still ha e a distinguishable outline for the weapon. Also as an alternative to the silly lines or text for AA weapons why not have an exploding plane icon. Provides a distinctive shape so it's easy to pick out. Hell you could keep the lettering since there is both AAA and SAM for anti air and knowing the difference is vital.

[Google_Frog]

teamcolors.lua overrides player colours locally. I got tired of asking people to not play dark colours, colours that look too similar etc...

[AF]

The colour issues should never be a problem in the first place.

Demanding players limit their colour choices in order to prevent a problem in a bad diea, doesn't make it a good one.

Why has nobody attempted to change the way the icons are drawn in the first place? Whats stopping you using the inverse colour of the team colour for the icons? Changing the white icons to black when selected if its a darker colour? Giving them semi transparent glowing borders rendered underneath the blips when selected?

Stop looking for kludges to fix your broken solutions, and look for enw solutions instead.

[zwzsg]

Demanding players limit their colour choices in order to prevent a problem in a bad diea, doesn't make it a good one.

locally

You don't have to demand anything to anyone. Someone use a color you don't like? Activate widget to recolor him on your end, without anyone else noticing.

[AF]

Thats bad, horrible user interface, and the most obvious outcome is a pissed off user, as well as the question 'whose the pink dude?'.

And people do notice, to suggest otherwise is a load of bullsh*t.

There are perfectly workable systems out there that let you choose any colour. Writting widgets to force colour rules is going to an extraordinary effort because you cant be arsed doing the right thing, which is utterly irrational.

[luckywaldo7]

Why has nobody attempted to change the way the icons are drawn in the first place? Whats stopping you using the inverse colour of the team colour for the icons? Changing the white icons to black when selected if its a darker colour? Giving them semi transparent glowing borders rendered underneath the blips when selected

How often do you play using icons?

[Das Bruce]

Whats stopping you using the inverse colour of the team colour for the icons?

I choose 128,128,128, victory ensues.

[smoth]

How often do you play using icons?

lol, I never see them when I play. I have it set so high

[AF]

lol @ bruce, well if you can render the icon with inverse colour, then you can put a simple white outline around the black.

I still think the concept of an icon within an icon has limitations and we should use thin colour borders round the edges.