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neddiedrow wrote:Well, Lollicide, you would not say that all men who revel in their masculinity or all women who revel in their femininity are attention whores, would you? Some are and some are merely compelled to represent themselves actively; this is no different for TG/TS individuals. What is different is that it is clearly safer to simply go into stealth mode in most societies. As for the terms, I assure you, this is both how I speak and really not very verbose - I myself am quite unhappy with the misuse of language we encounter in academia.
Well maybe I just have a personal dislike of people who sum themselves up in a single statement (At one point I met a man who said 'Hi, my name's Dave and I'm a vegan) and use it to base their entire outward persona and world view.

But in regards to TG/TS, this is really a non-regular subset of humanity in terms of numbers and thus would attract the attention of...well, attention whores, people who need the attention regardless of the type and because of the minority (And the public confusion/revulsion) this attention is amplified in those attention psyches.

In regards to the terms, yes, its good to use specific terms, especially when referencing specific societal/psychological ideas, but I'm all for appropriate context. This is a gaming forum after all.
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Caydr wrote:To be clear, I wasn't saying I would want sex change surgery, I was talking about some kind of magical hypothetical nanobot shit... like something out of Ghost in the Shell or something like that. Your brain, in a completely different body.

NOT the michael jackson freakshow treatment where you end up just with bits chopped off and whiskers.

Yechh ok, I gave it some more thought and you're right, it would just be freaky weird. Better to get an android companion instead, best of both worlds.

If such miracles of science were possible I'd more likely go for stuff like, well, ghost in the shell kind of stuff. Crazy athletic ability, strength, speed, enhanced reflexes...
Faster sperm production...
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http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/09/14/mee ... e-mermaid/

Since we are on the topic of gender, how about BI-SPECIES.
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Is everyone going to make fun of me for being a furry? Cause if that's true, I'm totally not one.
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I knew it... :lol:

But seriously where does one draw the line?

First we change genders in the regular spots.

We will have tails to make furries happy...

Then some guy will have stem cells attached to your arm makes a boob instead of a bicep and squirt milk when you flex!

In the Guinness World Record book, man officially turns himself into dog by accident completely but wins the 2100 for being a "furfag (or better name here)", barks incoherently in interview on fox news, done in by a genetically modified human to look like a fox.

god... help... me...
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Personally, I think we'd have an explosion of mutability. Like, there'd be a flurry of changes and advances that will make your head spin...then we'll settle into something fairly stable.

Just...completely different from what we've got here and now.

Its called a...TECHNOLOGICAL SINGULARITY!

And I can't fucking wait for it to get here.
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I wonder why "Greys (Aliens(Demons and evil spirits of the giants))" are harvesting human sexual products and such?
Did they hit TECHNOLOGICAL SINGULARITY and went hastily too fast and lost their humanity now trying to go backwards to obtain it?
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Well, not, but once you've become unto-gods, you need something new to do with your time. You can't try and advance technology, you've already advanced into a plane of reality beyond our own.

So, well, you get bored.

But nothing, NOTHING, is more entertaining then the time honored practice of fucking with lower levels of life.
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I think your oversimplifying this, the advancement of perfect technology would then dictate to make your own low level species, which supports a lot of ancient chariots of the gods. Fucking with lower species of lives that you created in controlled environment. I guess that is one of the greatness of being "God" He never fucked with the lower lifeforms, its just his higher up lifeforms fallen angels get bored and God is not bored, he keeps his God things to himself so hes secretly amused.

It could be said then that this solar system was a controlled environment set up around a lone star that aliens massed perfect calculations to make these balls of gravitational mass to support almost too-perfect life supporting planet Earth.

It would explain why alot of animals use DNA, the same written code by lazy aliens, kindof like .cob.

But of course...
But nothing, NOTHING, is more entertaining then the time honored practice of fucking with lower levels of life.
would have to be a valid law first of all intelligent life forms. As of now we only know enough about one, HU-MAAANS
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yes i am over simplificating things for a lame joke!
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Life is a joke
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So, basically Greys are massive perverts, who'd be thrown into Astral Gravity Jails by other Greys, if caught?

:roll: That explains so much.

As for the rest of this... meh. If Science can actually transmogrify people thoroughly enough to do a full gender transformation, I suspect that the least of our problems, sociologically, would be gender issues. In fact, I suspect that gender issues would disappear, and the concept of "women's lib" would become an unknown in the language and culture.

What do we do, when everybody's able to enter a nano-box, and come out of it however they want to be? We'd get a world of fashion-shifting anthropoids, vaguely human, shuffling around in search of the latest style in body. And of course it can't stop there- if we have sufficiently-magical tech, then we can alter our minds, as well.

Want to be an eight-foot tall pro basketball player who can recite Shakespeare's plays from an eidetic memory and who's only emotional flaw is consecotaleophobia? Just step into the box, missir, and you can have that.

Want to be a five-foot female with radiantly-natural skin tone, a gift for color coordination and enough coordination to become a ninja with training from a simple online Brain Immersion course? Why, just sign here, missir.

Want to be an elephant with a human mind? Here's the box, enjoy the experience, missir.

BTW, if that last sounds stupid, read a Takeshi Kovacks novel. However, I guess people wanted stupid, because the novelist made a bunch of money. Every time I read bad-but-well-styled sci-fi like that, I have to convince myself not to write something.
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Noruas wrote:Life is a joke
lol
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Those are problems, Argh?

That sounds pretty awesome to me.
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Argh wrote: Want to be an elephant with a human mind? Here's the box, enjoy the experience, missir.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/483911

Semi-related, warning it does have elephant trunks.
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It sounds awesome, until you think about it a little more carefully.

What happens to a society, when nobody has to be anything in particular? When achievements are mainly a result of whatever you settings were dialed into the nano-box, and not a result of character?

What happens, when the same organizations who want, and have gotten, more control and monitoring of things like the Internet in our present age are constantly worrying that somebody will use the box to become a psychotic killer, or merely turn themselves into a non-symptomatic nano-plague carrier and then ride every bus in town?

Let alone direct control. Let's imagine that they're nice and rational and mean well. But what would happen to social systems when the boundaries of human nature were set in stone by bureaucrats, and the real depth and breadth of Being Human were regulated?

What happens, when people no longer have any of our millenia of adaptations to give them semi-accurate cues and clues about another person's intentions, behavior, and feelings? Think of the problems we have, when it's merely minor differences of CULTURE, RACE and LANGUAGE, and multiply it by everybody everywhere.

Wish-level tech is probably the death of humanity, frankly. It sounds so fun, until you start looking at the effects on every day.

On the one hand, if sufficiently godlike, nobody would die, even if everybody decided to turn themselves into something too stupid or too badly-wired to fix themselves as part of a fashion trend- at worst, we'd all just be attended by miracle tech, and aliens would comment on how we'd stumbled into the Great Heresy and throw peanuts at us.

On the other hand, it could lead to the most effective dictatorships ever, where everybody is programmed to serve the masters, and everybody who isn't a master is around mainly because what is godlike power worth, without worshippers?

And on the last hand, it could lead to instant death of everybody all at once, when some brilliant teenager hacks all of the Change Boxes and makes them fill everybody's cranium with a microgram of antimatter in a tiny shell, then makes some trivial mistake that causes them to all detonate without waiting for his command. If that sounds stupid... think about all of the brilliant virus writers, who, when caught, admit that they built their worm or whatever, but thought that they were going to be able to keep it contained to a specific target?

Either species extinction or (more likely) transmogrification to the point that we simply aren't human any more is the likely result. I don't think humans can deal with that level of wish-fulfillment without heading over a cliff, basically. We're a species that was wired for scarcity- imagine the problems caused by calories being cheap, but multiply it a thousand times- now it's not overweight people, it's a surfeit of psychological problems, governmental chaos, and all sorts of ways to kill everybody...

At any rate, sorry, I know this wasn't a serious conversation, and it's amusing the read the various homophiliac / phobic responses. Moving on.
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I just realized listening to Argh makes me very depressed.

very good points
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Zoombie wrote:Its called a...TECHNOLOGICAL SINGULARITY!
RAPTURE OF THE NERDS!

Seriously though, it's a nice idea, but simply waiting for it is not helpful, get BSc and bring it that much closer.
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Argh loves him some Ian Bank's Culture novels. The faggotry abounds.

I love culture novels. And your mom.

Zoombie wrote:Is everyone going to make fun of me for being a furry? Cause if that's true, I'm totally not one.
Yes. Everyone is going to because it is a retarded sexualisation of non-human subjects. Also, you are retarded for mentioning it. If you love being beaten the shit out of for sexual pleasure, you don't mention it, nobody wants to imagine some pasty white nerd having the shit beaten out of them and nobody wants to imagine some pasty white nerd dressed as a 'hot fox' having the shit buggered out of them. So keep your dickknot in your pants and your hands away from the F-U-R-R-Y keys on your keyboard.
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