Map: Vein

[ralphie]

Here's my attempt at a bot/veh hybrid map, trying for something a bit more interesting than just randomly throwing in hills 5v5, 16x16.

http://spring.jobjol.nl/show_file.php?id=1989





^ veh f2

^ bot f2

[Beherith]

Lookin' great, cant wait to try it.

[hunterw]

at first glance it looks much more biased towards bots than vechs, as opposed to a hybrid, but i'll reserve gameplay judgement until playing.

i'd suggest a texture cue for where kbots stop being able to climb, because it's not very apparent in a lot of places, as lots of slopes are right on the threshold.

i like the concept. not as much as charlie though!

[kburts]

cool'sh, i'm still trying to make a 1v1 kbot map, but none really work

[Saktoth]

You absolutely need to define by texture difference which slopes are bot passable and which are not, as hunter said. Thats is very very important.

It also looks as if there are small 'breaks', about 1 unit wide, in the bot-impassable areas that allow units to get through. Not only can this be kind of annoying and hard to spot these little passageways, but they are inconsistent in the mirroring- some cliffs are easily passable by bots at several points while their mirrored counterparts are not. The tall, impasable plateus near the corners, for example, seem to have a large open ramp facing backwards on the upper one, and a tiny 1-unit wide slit facing upwards on the lower one.

[hunterw]

The tall, impasable plateus near the corners, for example, seem to have a large open ramp facing backwards on the upper one, and a tiny 1-unit wide slit facing upwards on the lower one.

:shhh: tundra has one of these

it never effected gameplay

[IllvilJa]

Thumbs up!

I get warm and fuzzy "Levels v2" feelings over this map... with all steep slopes causing a veritable maze of terrain to deal with.

Looks promising, might be a future favorite for Spring44! (Or P.U.R.E 0.55 or Operation Polaris...)

Ninja-edit: FPS mode on this map... regardless of vehicle it will be "woooooo"!

[KaiserJ]

wow, looks like a lot of fun! can't wait to try it. nice work with the texture as well.

what programs did you use if you dont mind revealing your secrets?

[Saktoth]

The tall, impasable plateus near the corners, for example, seem to have a large open ramp facing backwards on the upper one, and a tiny 1-unit wide slit facing upwards on the lower one.

:shhh: tundra has one of these

it never effected gameplay

Really, really tiny 1 unit cracks are what really get on my tits, one of my least favourite things in maps.

[hunterw]

the main reason it didnt affect gameplay was because it was right next to 2 bigger cracks which both sides had

[BaNa]

oh cmon saktoth, its those small exploits that make it fun.

[ralphie]

Worldmachine was too aggressive in eroding down my heightmap. Originally they were going to be little plateaus only air could get too. I was going manually edit the heightmap, then got lazy and decided to do nothing with them

KasierJ: The "standard" combo nowadays, WICed and Worldmachine.