School Shooting in Germany

[adin_panther]

Mhm ... that was our first real amok school shooting ever. Makes me wonder what comes next, but then again ... who cares.

[Acidd_UK]

Quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence :

Blue: UK
Red: USA

Non-firearm homicide rate per 100,000 pop.
1.33
4.55

Firearm homicide rate per 100,000 pop.
0.12
2.97

% homicides with firearms
8
39

Overall homicide rate per 100,000 pop.
1.57
7.52

It would be interesting to see these figures sorted and shown next to a satatement as to how strict the countries firearms laws are...

[TheMightyOne]

humans cant be trusted with guns in general if sum1 feels suicidal and in a shit mood they can do stuff like this. Im generally against guns

+1

[ginekolog]

As i suspected, USA is very unsafe place violence vise. Actually person has 3 times more chance to get murdered in usa than in my country.

Ppl should not carry any weapon that makes killing easy. I am gald guns are banned here.

[smoth]

Acid, that just means that ~70% I am going to be killed some other more interesting way.

I don't think guns are bad, I don't think having them is bad. my best friend has a damn arsenal and when I get my own house.... yeah.

Most people who hate or fear guns have never been around them. It is a matter of fact that a lot of retards do not respect guns for their destructive potential. Also the united states is the birth ground of hip-hop culture which consists of some of the most idiotic gun brandishing and lack of self control.

[pintle]

Don't generalise people's opposition to guns to be down to lack of experience.

I have experience in the use of shotguns, and have fired a rifle a few times.

I fucking hate guns.

America is in the position where banning guns would just be politically non-viable. This does not mean its a good idea to make them publicly available.

[CarRepairer]

In kansas city where I live, last year there were 197 murders, out of a population of several million. Interestingly enough, 197 murders were enough to put KC at #1 in the country for murder rates.

You guys over on that side of the pond have some weird twisted view that what comes out of hollywood is how things actually are in the US. Quite the opposite.

YEAAAHHHHH BOY EAST COAST REPREZENT - err.. WEST COAST.. err.. dead center.

[Forboding Angel]

Banning guns would also be against our constitution as well. According to our constitution, us as individuals have the duty to overthrow our government if it stops representing the people. We are not so much a democracy as we are a republic, and our founding fathers set things up for limited government. Lately, government has been growing at a breakneck pace (no thanks to clinton, bush, and obama), and obama is making a very fast dive for socialism, and it is very alarming to many of us considering that it violates our constitution.

@otherside: Doesn't this prove that regardless of the country's gun laws, that doesn't stop anything? If a criminal wants a gun, a criminal is going to get a gun, it's not rocket science.

Regardless, concerning what smoth said, yes America is the birthplace of the hip-hop culture, and that accounts for 95% of the homicide rate here in KC. It's black people killing black people. Idiots will do what idiots will do. Most of the people getting killed and doing the killing are poorly educated and living in the projects. "Minority" on "minority" crime accounts for prolly around 90% of homicide rates. Most of it being gang related.

@carrepairer: I hate KC (specifically KCMO) I miss LA and San Diego (where I'm originally from), but to be able to move back out there, I would essentially need to find a job before I moved and meh. Someday I'll go back.

Synopsis: drop a nuke on KCMO. No one will miss it.

Regarding Germany, it's not real shocking that this happened. A crazy person is a crazy person. They are all over the world, and just cause your government bans something doesn't mean that it is suddenly unavailable.

@pintle: Same thing. If you make them "Not publicly available" is that going to stop the criminals from having them? No. It does a wonderful job of keeping them out of law abiding citizen's hands though.

[pintle]

Yeah I should have been clearer: Banning handgun ownership in the USA is not going to happen in the forseeable future, not much point discussing it here.

[SwiftSpear]

Banning guns would also be against our constitution as well. According to our constitution, us as individuals have the duty to overthrow our government if it stops representing the people.

Oh ho ho! I think you should read again, you have a right to bear arms!


Your constitution grants you no right to guns, or weapons. Only bear arms.

[smoth]

pintle didn't say all. I said most, in the us that is usually the case not always but usually.

[zwzsg]

Banning guns would also be against our constitution as well. According to our constitution, us as individuals have the duty to overthrow our government if it stops representing the people.

Your constitution mentions "a well regulated militia", not "let every lonely psycho get all the guns he wants".

Also, funny how old habits die hard. The shooting happened in Germany, yet discussion was quick to fall back in the over-treaded track of U.S. gun issue.

[Felix the Cat]

Banning guns would also be against our constitution as well. According to our constitution, us as individuals have the duty to overthrow our government if it stops representing the people.

Your constitution mentions "a well regulated militia", not "let every lonely psycho get all the guns he wants".

Also, funny how old habits die hard. The shooting happened in Germany, yet discussion was quick to fall back in the over-treaded track of U.S. gun issue.

...probably because the US is the only country where guns are an actual political issue with large numbers of people on each side and lots of meaningful debate.

Most other countries are either "guns BAN BAN BAN" or "I seeeell you AK-47 for thwee camels, dees ok?"

I mean, a discussion of British gun policy wouldn't be too fun, now would it?

[tombom]

Regardless, concerning what smoth said, yes America is the birthplace of the hip-hop culture, and that accounts for 95% of the homicide rate here in KC.

Oh

my

god

This is horrible.

It's black people killing black people. Idiots will do what idiots will do. Most of the people getting killed and doing the killing are poorly educated and living in the projects. "Minority" on "minority" crime accounts for prolly around 90% of homicide rates. Most of it being gang related.

What's with the quotes around minority here anyway

[smoth]

"I seeeell you AK-47 for thwee camels, dees ok?"

NO WAY!

[adin_panther]

Woa, that is way overpriced for an ak-47 ... last time i checked they went for around 150 euro/180 Dollar. Camels are expensive ...

[smoth]

in retrospect I want to clarify, I don't mean "black people" when I say hip hop more about all stupid assholes who go with this lifestyle.

[Forboding Angel]

...probably because the US is the only country where guns are an actual political issue with large numbers of people on each side and lots of meaningful debate.

Most other countries are either "guns BAN BAN BAN" or "I seeeell you AK-47 for thwee camels, dees ok?"

I mean, a discussion of British gun policy wouldn't be too fun, now would it?

Pretty much.

[Jazcash]

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[Otherside]

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