Rotating unit icons

[Regret]

Unit icons that appear when you zoom out with added rotation according to the unit. (but only when in LOS or w/e)

[zwzsg]

I do not like that, and even think it would stupid on lots of icon, such as Krogoth icon. So if implemented, make it optional.

[imbaczek]

better add a direction marker independent of the unit icon.

[smoth]

I would like it for some icons on the mini map but it breaks some icon systems.

for example a diamond(square turned 45 degrees) vs a square would be hard to tell apart.

[zwzsg]

better add a direction marker independent of the unit icon.

No, there in't that much room on the minimap. Just add tag rotate=0/1; to \GAMEDATA\ICONTYPES.TDF syntax, let modder decide case by case which is best. (Ok, Regret said zoomed out not minimap, but it's better to keep coherency.)

[Regret]

To clear up, I meant it as something optional.

[TradeMark]

wtf., does real radars show direction too?

NO

imo its bad idea, too much information, real radars just see a dot...

If we make radar too high tech, then its like having perfect LOS afterall.

btw, i still want that permanent LOS option in spring, been screaming for it for 3 years now ;_;

[smoth]

can be done with a mod option I am pretty sure Trademark. I thought someone did it, maybe they forgot to post the code?

[TradeMark]

yeah i remember someone modifyed spring code to make possible to make all visible etc, but never told how to use it :d

and it should be an option to every mod, like it was in OTA, so no need to add it yourself in your mod by lua... would work in any mod, without editing mod, thats what i mean...

[lurker]

Uhh, do you want permanent or global?
/globallos

[TradeMark]

i want that every player in the game can see every player in the game without radars etc, permanent LOS

and not with cheat codes -.-

[CarRepairer]

i want that every player in the game can see every player in the game without radars etc, permanent LOS

and not with cheat codes -.-

lua

[Regret]

imo its bad idea, too much information, real radars just see a dot...

I said when a unit is in LOS.

[TradeMark]

i want that every player in the game can see every player in the game without radars etc, permanent LOS

and not with cheat codes -.-

lua

no not lua, it should be hardcoded game feature which you can turn off/on before launching game...

[CarRepairer]

i want that every player in the game can see every player in the game without radars etc, permanent LOS

and not with cheat codes -.-

lua

no not lua, it should be hardcoded game feature which you can turn off/on before launching game...

No it shouldn't (woah deja vu, we've had this argument before about something else...). Engine should only be modified if lua cannot do something without great difficulty. A simple gadget can do what you're asking with a checkbox exactly the way you want it and can be written in under 5 minutes. Again, the engine does not need a feature bloat when lua can do the task easily and believe me this one is easy.

I'll make you a deal, I'll write it for you if you make me an FFA map to my liking

[TradeMark]

Yeah engine needs it hardcoded, as it already has "com ends" hardcoded, or "limit dgun" etc, same shit. + its more efficient when its not made by some lua loop like foreach(units) make_visible() for every game frame etc lmao.

and if it was made by lua gadget, it needs to me included in every mod, and thats not good, since you need to update every mod then.

You dont even need to write it though, since it was added some time ago (IIRC), just not included in TASClient as a battle option...

[CarRepairer]

Yeah engine needs it hardcoded, as it already has "com ends" hardcoded, or "limit dgun" etc, same shit. +

Some of these are outdated since Spring is an RTS engine, not a TA engine. No need to add every option to the engine that you think of unless it's not doable in lua, see below.

its more efficient when its not made by some lua loop like foreach(units) make_visible() for every game frame etc lmao.

No loops needed. Set losstate and losmask when units are created. Or even setunitalwaysvisible.

it needs to me included in every mod

No because it doesn't apply to every mod. And for those that you want to use it in (such as BA), make a mutator, which will take people 0.04 seconds to download from SD - much less than downloading a map.

[Argh]

No loops needed. Set losstate and losmask when units are created. Or even setunitalwaysvisible.

That's the way. Use SetUnitAlwaysVisible(), it's the easiest way, just do it on Create().

Dunno if that will interfere with Cloak, but that's another easy Gadget- intercept the command, turn visibility off, let Cloak run.

Needs to be done with a Gadget, though. Easy mutator.

[lurker]

SetUnitAlwaysVisible is the wrong way to do it. It doesn't work on particles. All that has to be done is letting lua run /globallos.

Assuming globallos does work properly.

[hoijui]

i say: satelites for all teams, as CA has(/had?) them.
each team has one, very high up, with very high los, so they see al the map. :D