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[CarRepairer]

Question regarding endgame stats damage dealt:

1) Does it calculate all damage done or only that done to enemies?

2) Does it include paralyzer damage?

3) Does it calculate the damage done by the weapon or is there a cap on the unit's max HP? For example when you dgun a flea does it count as 20 damage or 99999? (This has to be taken into account in lua's unitdamaged as it results in the 99999.)

The reason I'm asking is I want to write an accurate description for why awards in CA/PW don't always match the endgame stats chart.

[Evil4Zerggin]

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void CUnit::DoDamage(const DamageArray& damages, CUnit *attacker,const float3& impulse, int weaponId)
[...]
	if (paralyzeTime == 0) { // real damage
		if (damage > 0.0f) {
			// Dont log overkill damage (so dguns/nukes etc dont inflate values)
			const float statsdamage = std::max(0.0f, std::min(maxHealth - health, damage));
			if (attacker) {
				gs->Team(attacker->team)->currentStats.damageDealt += statsdamage;
			}
			gs->Team(team)->currentStats.damageReceived += statsdamage;
			health -= damage;
		}

So it looks like all, no, and capped.

[CarRepairer]

Thank you sir.

[[Krogoth86]]

Is it possible to define an icon for "unknown" enemy radar dots? And if not is it the "default" radar icon that gets used for this so I'd have to make the default icon the "unknown symbol" and assign specific icons in the units' FBIs?

EDIT:
Ah ok - the default icon is the one which gets used for unknown radar dots. Still it would be more comfortable if there is an entry just for this as otherwise I'd have to edit lots of FBIs...

[Pressure Line]

Is it possible to define an icon for "unknown" enemy radar dots? And if not is it the "default" radar icon that gets used for this so I'd have to make the default icon the "unknown symbol" and assign specific icons in the units' FBIs?

EDIT:
Ah ok - the default icon is the one which gets used for unknown radar dots. Still it would be more comfortable if there is an entry just for this as otherwise I'd have to edit lots of FBIs...

lazy prick

and arent there mass-editing tools for FBI anyway?

[Argh]

Does anybody know a way to force a mod to use fixed start positions? I have a mini-game I've been wanting to do, and time to do it today, since this is un-planned time... but I was thinking that I needed to do this, to make it work. Any ideas?

[KDR_11k]

No but I suppose if you want to force fixed the mod is limited to a fixed set of maps too? In that case you could just use Lua to move everyone to the fixed starting position (maybe even base it on proximity if you want people to pick which of the fixed positions they'd like). Pong uses fixed starting rectangles that are enforced with Lua (and also used for determining who's on which team)

[Argh]

No but I suppose if you want to force fixed the mod is limited to a fixed set of maps too?

Yeah, for beta 1, I was thinking that would be best, for the particular gameplay I wanted to achieve.

That's ideally, though. It's not quite as limited in scope as Pong. It probably doesn't matter, I think players behaviors will become logical, when they understand the rules.

[Sheekel]

Question regarding starting a new game from scratch, was there a default mod base created at some point?

[[Krogoth86]]

AFAIK Argh once created sort of an "empty modfile" - I also think I saw that once in one of the early PURE versions included in the file. You might want to ask him about it...

[FLOZi]

Question regarding starting a new game from scratch, was there a default mod base created at some point?

I have one.

Meant to be the absolute minimum for spring to run without any error messages, though it's not 100% uptodate for 77b5

[Sheekel]

thanks flozi

[FLOZi]

N.B., it would *run* with certain files not being there, without exiting, but you would get errors in chat.

edit: also note that all the files are in lua format where possible, may as well avoid FBI/TDF if you are starting from nothing.

[Sheekel]

if i use luadefs I presume i can change values on the fly?

ingame unit customization is of vital importance to the success of my game

[SeanHeron]

Many thanks for that "empty" mod folder! I found it very useful :). And I agree that it's good to have everything in lua if your starting afresh anyway. I was thinking of putting together an "skeleton" like this just for my own use, but you saved me that effort, so I really am grateful :D!

[KDR_11k]

if i use luadefs I presume i can change values on the fly?

ingame unit customization is of vital importance to the success of my game

No, luadefs make no difference to the result. You can modify your unitdefs in unitdefs_post.lua (works on fbis too AFAIK) but after that they're read-only. Customization can be done in other ways.

[bobthedinosaur]

is there a way to call a cob explosion to destroy a piece but doesnt have an annoying flash attached to it?

[Evil4Zerggin]

What exactly do you mean by "destroy"? If you want it to just disappear, you can use hide [piece];. Otherwise you're out of luck as far as COB goes (unless you make the default heatcloud invisible).

[bobthedinosaur]

well i wanted to kill a piece primarily for stopping the weapon but i guess i could just jam it instead

[Evil4Zerggin]

Hiding/exploding a piece won't stop a weapon. In fact exploding a piece won't even hide it.