Updated site layout ready?

[Warlord Zsinj]

Can java actively cycle images? How about do the funky flash thing? If it can then by all means go for it!

EDIT: er, in rereading that comes off as a bit sarcastic. I genuinely do not know.

[FuzionMonkey]

Java is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.

Javascript on the other hand is pretty nifty stuff.

Usually Javascript isn't necessary, but a bit here and there can polish sites as long as it doesn't detract from anything.

[iamacup]

Java is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.

thats why most universities teach it and why large scale business applications are programed in it?

c# is nicer though... but java is very good.

[REVENGE]

Java is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.

thats why most universities teach it and why large scale business applications are programed in it?

c# is nicer though... but java is very good.

Not that it matters, what's necessary for running Javascript? Just a browser?

[Evil4Zerggin]

Java != Javascript. Pretty much any modern browser can run Javascript IIRC. As for Java, you need a Java Virtual Machine (JVM).

[SwiftSpear]

Java is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.

thats why most universities teach it and why large scale business applications are programed in it?

c# is nicer though... but java is very good.

The impression I get... Universities teach it because it's one of the hardest of fuck up languages there is, so it's an easy language to learn OOP principles with.

Businesses focus on it because, while it's very taxing to individual machines, it's portable to pretty much every device ever, so they can quickly port their software to their mobile phone systems (possibly somewhat more limited, but still functional) and other obscure machines they have lying around, and it's powerful for abstract networking functions.

[AF]

Or rather because its easy to teach it the way they want to teach it.

Of course universities never teach java correctly, you end up with hordes of students who say they can program java but they cant, they only know this 'warped evil' dialect of java which is aside from totally useless and unreadable, very very slow and buggy.

This is why java applications are horrible. Its not Javas fault, its the programmers fault. Its trying to build a nuclear reactor by giving step by step instructions to a three year old. Eventually its going to crash and not everybody will be happy.

Good Java on the other hand tends to be unrecognized. Users may have used the program for years unaware they're using a java program, which is good because if they were told it was a java program then the whole thing would seem slower even though its not faster than it was before, simply because users equate java with slowness and bugs.

Java script can do all the things people have asked for here, except play videos which it would probably do via an embedded flash applet, but JavaFX script should fix that. But we already have a flash applet on the front page with videos as it is.

As a side note, javascript can control div containers and so any java based component of the frontpage could stretch and contract, whereas a flash based component requires a rigid set of dimensions as far as I am aware, and even if it didn't, the javascript can be styled with CSS and made anywhere whereas flash requires a commercial tool chain for most things.

Regarding deployment

;I think currently the site is in a usable state. I would personally make modifications to make it deployable however under the circumstances, we need to ditch this current site as soon as possible. It is astonishing how many replacement sites we've built yet the act fo actually carrying through seems to be so elusive.

As I see it fnordia wishes to deploy once the forum style has been changed to suite the new theme, but I think that it is already miles ahead and he should deploy now as 'milestone 1' and continue work on nyspring.clan-sy.com for 'milestone 2' while keeping progress going in the svn.

[Warlord Zsinj]

If we're going for deployment, I'm still waiting for a heads up RE: Banner styles so that I can produce the IW ones.

[clericvash]

So any news on what is going on, it looks fine to me?

Why is there so much need for chat going back and forth over the same subjects, someone needs to just get the balls and deploy it already.

[pharoph]

cause somethings take a long time to make.

[souledge]

cause somethings take a long time to make.

But it's already made! There aren't any major issues blocking the deployment, it's already substantially better than the current site and it's not like once it's deployed it's set in stone.

[Dragon45]

Java is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.

Javascript on the other hand is pretty nifty stuff.

Usually Javascript isn't necessary, but a bit here and there can polish sites as long as it doesn't detract from anything.

I agree!

On an unrelated note, pomegranates are bad, and oranges are good! Also, dogs are not birds, and cannot squawk (therefore dogs suck and birds rule!)

[Dragon45]

[pharoph]

lol. winnar.

[NOiZE]

So whats the status of this?

[Forboding Angel]

Dead, as I predicted long long ago. Figures.

I was hoping I was wrong tbh.

[smoth]

or maybe something came up? maybe all the drama made him want to distance himself? who knows.

[Forboding Angel]

The end result is still the same

[Tobi]

Fnordia just didn't have time yet to deploy it. (vacation etc.)

[smoth]

The end result is still the same

I know it sucks but cmon man, the guy has to have a life .