Spring Needs to be Advertised!

[Pressure Line]

^_^ ta

[Hobo Joe]

I could use my car as a rubbish bin, it doesnt mean its a rubbish bin. If you choose to use Spring as 'omgz TA in 3D', thats cool. But dont force it on me, I'll bite, and not in the nice way

ps: the letters 'A' and 'T' still do not feature in the word 'Spring' so nyaaa!

Not trying to force anything on anyone. :)


Just trying to make a point, really. In complete honesty, EVERY new player I've talked to in Spring has come because it's a 'TA remake', with only 1 exception. In those cases, I do try to inform them that it's more than just a TA remake and let them know about the other mods/games. (And to Smoth, that was incredibly unfounded and also untrue.)

[De_little_Bubi]

Yeah our current goal isnt run a ta remake. Its run the original ta stuff^^

I learned the name "TASpring" too.
Why is it wrong to advertise with ta games? Its true :/.
Sure you can advertise with other mods, too but i cant understand why you despise the ta part. As i can see in this little communitty the most played mods are ta mods.

[Hoi]

Yeah our current goal isnt run a ta remake. Its run the original ta stuff^^

I learned the name "TASpring" too.
Why is it wrong to advertise with ta games? Its true :/.
Sure you can advertise with other mods, too but i cant understand why you despise the ta part. As i can see in this little communitty the most played mods are ta mods.

+1, people that will see ta will think ta! that was cool! ive played that! and its free? then they look for it and start to play and will find out that its not only ta and (hopefully) will start playing other mods too

[KDR_11k]

Well, it is advertised as a TA remake to everyone. Easier to sell people on "we're a 3d adaption of popular commercial game X" than trying to tell them you're something completely new. The former immediately makes them imagine something.

[De_little_Bubi]

@hoi: this was exactly my way.
I read about SupCom, the !TA successor! and i thought damn i must get more information about it. (It wasnt out at this time)
So i used google and youtube and found videos about something named TASpring... .
Next thought: Damn a TA remake still available and for free! Never buyed SupCom.

Btw On the other site its important that we advertise with non ta mod too, because there are a lot of people hwo didn't like TA. (Nearly all of my friends and my brother :/ )
The 1944 Mod and Imperial Winter at example are good mods for mainstream advertising.
Anyway there are mods for nearly every playertype. We shouldnt say "dont advertise spring with this or this". If its fit best it should be used.
At example: ~5 Month ago i advertised 1944 in a little Gamerboard who are playing primary a first world war mod for BF1942. They all dont like future stuff and so 1944 fits best for them. The response to the images was great. My bad that i didnt test the Mod, so i had realized that all the stuff wasnt in the current release :/

[Hoi]

@hoi: this was exactly my way.
I read about SupCom, the !TA successor! and i thought damn i must get more information about it. (It wasnt out at this time)
So i used google and youtube and found videos about something named TASpring... .
Next thought: Damn a TA remake still available and for free! Never buyed SupCom.

Btw On the other site its important that we advertise with non ta mod too, because there are a lot of people hwo didn't like TA. (Nearly all of my friends and my brother :/ )
The 1944 Mod and Imperial Winter at example are good mods for mainstream advertising.
Anyway there are mods for nearly every playertype. We shouldnt say "dont advertise spring with this or this". If its fit best it should be used.
At example: ~5 Month ago i advertised 1944 in a little Gamerboard who are playing primary a first world war mod for BF1942. They all dont like future stuff and so 1944 fits best for them. The response to the images was great. My bad that i didnt test the Mod, so i had realized that all the stuff wasnt in the current release :/

yes 1944 is cool, but what i think is bad is mods like 1944, gundam, kernal panic ,evo ect is that almost nobody plays them, ba is too much played becaus
1. ba has alot of autohosts
2. when im a noob and i join spring, and enter lobby and see 90% ba games then i think, hmm thats what im gonna play

so, i think ba should be played less becaus its bad for spring, yes its fun, but other mods are also fun, and i would host them if someone could connect! so, what should happen is that those mods i talked about get an autohost, so people know that they are there and play them

[AF]

There are also those who detest the TA resource model

[pharoph]

just another idea from all the talk about there is no ta in spring..

remember this?

(video of the old ta)

meet the next generation!


(video of 3D ta)

spring
the next generation of TA!

[hughperkins]

SecondLife had a shit community in 2004; and lots of stuff didnt work.

4 years later, and a lot of advertising, SecondLife itself hasnt changed that much, in terms of development, and yet the community is *huge*.

Advertising works!

There's lots of bad stuff one can say about TASpring, but think about why you yourself stayed: there's certain things that exist in TASpring that don't exist anywhere else: for example, the ability to easily mod stuff, and a fairly mature/ friendly mod/dev community.

[AF]

Second life has things spring does not.

Mainly a vastly superior website, and a lengthy tutorial every user must pass to enter the main world.

These make it much easier to join secondlife than it does to join the spring community by several orders of magnitude.

[Hoi]

Second life has things spring does not.

Mainly a vastly superior website, and a lengthy tutorial every user must pass to enter the main world.

These make it much easier to join secondlife than it does to join the spring community by several orders of magnitude.

then, lets get those things! as missions currently work we can use them as a 2th step to a tutorial (1th one was the screens in ca like youve not build any AA yet...)

[hughperkins]

I've created a wiki page called "Spring projects", for simple, small, one-person projects that people could do.

This currently contains:
* create a tutorial mission to show people how to use Spring
* create a Help dialog box with the really basic topics in, and that can be disabled easily by non-newbs

http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/SpringProjects

It's an orphan for now, because not sure where to link to it from, but at least it exists.

[Hoi]

how do i edit it? when i try to it sks for pass/name but when i enter it 'i dont hve an account'?

[hughperkins]

how do i edit it? when i try to it sks for pass/name but when i enter it 'i dont hve an account'?

So make an account I guess http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/Special:Userlogin

[Neddie]

Your account on the wiki is not your forum account, you need to register them separately.

Advertisement is of interest to me, but without legal content and sufficient artistic skills, I put my projects aside. I'll be advertising Kernel Panic when I'm done with another project.

[123vtemp]

I've created a wiki page called "Spring projects", for simple, small, one-person projects that people could do.

This currently contains:
* create a tutorial mission to show people how to use Spring
* create a Help dialog box with the really basic topics in, and that can be disabled easily by non-newbs

http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/SpringProjects

It's an orphan for now, because not sure where to link to it from, but at least it exists.

There are a number of variations of what you have mentioned on your wiki page in existence.

What I find to be a problem is that the work that people have done is not well known or not listed in known locations. A solution would be for Spring to have a listing or directory for every thing produced pertaining to Spring. This would be one location where every thing created that had to do with spring to be listed; widgets, tools, tutorials, videos Spring related sites, projects etc. Yes it would seem repetitive, but the great value is that it would all be listed in one location. In order for that to take place the community would need to support it and request it on the Spring main page, and other appropriate locations to make sure that it was thorough. The CA site is another location where we would want these desires to be known.

[Pressure Line]

I've created a wiki page called "Spring projects", for simple, small, one-person projects that people could do.

This currently contains:
* create a tutorial mission to show people how to use Spring
* create a Help dialog box with the really basic topics in, and that can be disabled easily by non-newbs

http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/SpringProjects

It's an orphan for now, because not sure where to link to it from, but at least it exists.

There are a number of variations of what you have mentioned on your wiki page in existence.

What I find to be a problem is that the work that people have done is not well known or not listed in known locations. A solution would be for Spring to have a listing or directory for every thing produced pertaining to Spring. This would be one location where every thing created that had to do with spring to be listed; widgets, tools, tutorials, videos Spring related sites, projects etc. Yes it would seem repetitive, but the great value is that it would all be listed in one location. In order for that to take place the community would need to support it and request it on the Spring main page, and other appropriate locations to make sure that it was thorough. The CA site is another location where we would want these desires to be known.

just make a list (it will be LONG), link it on the front page all you will need is notepad and a lot of patience. off you go

[Muzic]

There are also those who detest the TA resource model

Whaat?!!

[BaNa]

I think we are getting closer to the point where it will make sense to advertise. There are a few things we need first tho:

We need New Spring site to be implemented.

Satirick seems to be working on a decent menu system and maybe even some tutorials (top row of TASClient, single player), this is needed.

The new spring update is soon here, and it fixes the truly annoying bugs in spring (start pos bug, lag bug, ground decal bug). This is definitely needed to stop users from leaving in frustration.

Aegis's uberlobby is needed, because the current lobby couldn't really support a hueg player influx, could it.

The launch of IW and s44 and PURE are not too far off. Those (esp IW...) have huge potential to bring in new players.

We should probably synchronize our efforts, and go for it once all of these things coincide, once spring is fixed enough that it wont scare ppl off, and we also have the new content.

Maybe we should even try to get another slashdot reference...