Map/Mod Autodownloading via Clients

[REVENGE]

Once again, why is this not done/being done. The earliest versions of TASClient had this feature, until it failed after the main server went down a few times. We now have many different mirrors to choose from when we download our mods and maps, not to mention a bt based system via CADownloader.

Why should this done? People are lazy and disinclined to download mods and maps they don't already have. This issue is more severe with regards to mods, as evidenced by BA's total dominance, and the refusal of many people to ever try other mods). Other than that, I'll just say that it's been done before, it was useful, and it was a loss when we lost its functionality.

In addition, you can also implement a download manager that visually displays your download progress and/or the progress of other people in your game.

[Gnomre]

Springlobby has had a built-in torrent system for some time now.

[Hoi]

then let everyone switch to springlobby?! no that wont work, add it to tasclient

[aegis]

springdownloader (the new/future cadownloader) will be integrated with the new/future tasclient

[AF]

springdownloader?

CADownloader would have been integrated into my lobby by now but licho has not implemented his lobby interface despite months of him saying 'its next on my todo list'

[REVENGE]

Whatever, just get it done. Will this be a torrent only system, or can you choose to do direct downloads?

[Gnomre]

then let everyone switch to springlobby?! no that wont work, add it to tasclient

Why not? TASClient wasn't the first lobby client, you know. It was just superior to those which preceeded it, and that status never lasts forever.

[aegis]

we need a few new ones!

[REVENGE]

then let everyone switch to springlobby?! no that wont work, add it to tasclient

Why not? TASClient wasn't the first lobby client, you know. It was just superior to those which preceeded it, and that status never lasts forever.

Because Springlobby continues to suck. How? I'm not sure. But it sucks.

[Hoi]

becaus almost everyone is using tasclient, it will be hard to let them all switch

[koshi]

Because Springlobby continues to suck. How? I'm not sure. But it sucks.

I'd like to hear your reasoning, even if you're not sure. When did you last try it?

becaus almost everyone is using tasclient, it will be hard to let them all switch

A steady 16% of logged in users are already using SpringLobby and it's not about "making" users switch, but providing an option.

[REVENGE]

Because Springlobby continues to suck. How? I'm not sure. But it sucks.

I'd like to hear your reasoning, even if you're not sure. When did you last try it?

becaus almost everyone is using tasclient, it will be hard to let them all switch

A steady 16% of logged in users are already using SpringLobby and it's not about "making" users switch, but providing an option.

I used it for about 2 months when I ran Ubuntu on my desktop. I dislike its looks, and I find its interface has some quirks (player names not being sorted the way I like by default, maps and mods not being detected properly on reload, crashing, lack of useful context menus during hosting as opposed to tasclient, lack of color fix / working team balance / other useful hosting features, etc.).

That said, I'd like to see what percentage of those 16% of springlobby users are running Linux. True, you're providing an option, the default option, and the only option in fact, for Linux users (don't even talk about AFLobby).

[aegis]

Three other options excepting AFLobby, one is mainstream (TASClient + WINE) and the others are private

[koshi]

I dislike its looks

almost entirely governed by your window manager theme (on both linux/windows)

player names not being sorted the way I like by default

remembering the sort order would get rid of that, yes?

maps and mods not being detected properly on reload

not currently an issue we know of

crashing

we currently know of a crash bug that happens on forced disconnect and one uncaught unitsync assertion that happens once in a while, nothing more

lack of useful context menus during hosting as opposed to tasclient, lack of color fix / working team balance / other useful hosting features, etc.)

color fix and balance have been in place for some time now, what else?

That said, I'd like to see what percentage of those 16% of springlobby users are running Linux.

Guessing aside there's no way i could come by that number.

[Licho]

AF - springdownloader http://caspring.org/wiki/sd
It's basically cadownloader with modules that each mod maker can add. It also has lobby interface implemented now.

I plan to add module for updating/keeping multiple spring versions. (Updating to SVN spring)

I'm just releasing it gradually to fix bugs, first ca developers, now ca players, when there are no known bugs/crashes for a week it will be ready for everyone else.

[LordMatt]

licho is there a vanilla version of that with no mod preinstalled? Also, would it be able to add modules for mods you decide to install after the fact?

[Forboding Angel]

BTW koshi, and satirik, I believe I offered this before, and I'll offer it again... THe files on my server are not protected from autolinking nor are they supposed to be, so if you want to have them autolink, be my guest.

I imagine that AF would offer this up as well considering that we are on the same host and have scads of bandwidth to piss away.

[LordMatt]

Perhaps something could be set up like we have for the installer where a central and reliably up site redirects to a number of mirrors the auto downloads. Mirrors could then be kept up to date with rsync scripts.

[Licho]

Perhaps such thing already exists!! Jobjol distributes its files to number of mirrors.

SpringDownlaoder does not download any mods/maps by default.
Modules are optional and it's open to add new modules (expecting evolution rts).

It uses 3x mirrored central coordinator site which directs it to 9+ existing web mirrors, including foreboding angel's one. It also talks with jobjol to ask for additional mirrors from there. (Used by springlobby too).

It uses multipart download to download file from multiple sites at once, thus balancing the load. If web copy of file is not availiable, it has torrent system for very rare maps/mods.

Its prepared for lobby integration.

[Forboding Angel]

Perhaps such thing already exists!! Jobjol distributes its files to number of mirrors.

SpringDownlaoder does not download any mods/maps by default.
Modules are optional and it's open to add new modules (expecting evolution rts).

It uses 3x mirrored central coordinator site which directs it to 9+ existing web mirrors, including foreboding angel's one. It also talks with jobjol to ask for additional mirrors from there. (Used by springlobby too).

It uses multipart download to download file from multiple sites at once, thus balancing the load. If web copy of file is not availiable, it has torrent system for very rare maps/mods.

Its prepared for lobby integration.

You opened it up to modules? I'm interested

Could you tell me more? Or is there documentation somewhere where I could read about it?

Thanks

Edit: O I See, I register a new mod and I assume it tells me what to do from there.

Edit2: Oops, it's set up a little differently I see. I looked for documentation on that particular feature and didn't find anything. COuld someone point me in the right direction?