CORE Wolverine +1

[MR.D]

I'm in the mood for big guns

Although this is a 3d party model I had forgotten to make it for the LVL-1 vehicle lineup.

And since it's a part of quite a few mods use LVL-1 vehicle artillery with this unit, I thought I would give it a go and see if I can improve upon it.

I was also motivated by what CA did to my Garpike model, and decided its probably for the best that I create an actual artillery unit instead of them having to piece one together from a unit that was never intended to be one .

I'm not planning anything fancy on this one, and will be holding to the operation that the original used, mostly just moving parts around so it doesn't clip or do anything wierd.

1022 triangles

** BA Wolverine **

** My Remodel **

[Machiosabre]

man, the wolverine design is awesome.

[Crayfish]

I think Mr.D took his weetabix and awesome modelling steroids this morning.

[Guessmyname]

I'd lower the main gun, personally. Beyond that, looks good!

[[Krogoth86]]

Yeah I also think that "lifting of the arm" isn't a good idea. It should be one the same height as the rest. I know you did it for the high traj mode but I'd go for a different solution like putting the tracks more inwards and making that am a bit longer so the cannone hovers benath the tracks instead of above them...

The rest looks awesome...

[Peet]

How about designing it so that the "arm" can be raised by script, depending on whether the gun will be pointing upwards?

[rattle]

The firing mechanism never made sense for the high trajectory firing mode.

[smoth]

How about designing it so that the "arm" can be raised by script, depending on whether the gun will be pointing upwards?

+1

like on a swivel or something.

[clericvash]

How about designing it so that the "arm" can be raised by script, depending on whether the gun will be pointing upwards?

+1

like on a swivel or something.

After that change, in my mind it becomes pure utter win. Good job as always!

[MR.D]

OK got some tweaks on it, I made the swing arm for the cannon lift for the high angle shooting.

It has plenty of clearance for shooting in high angle, and can stow back down when in lower trajectory shooting or travel.

I made a short .avi movie, make sure you guys have your Div-X codec up to date.


** 1.2 meg .avi animation **
http://www.mrd.str8-6.com/files/wolverine_test.zip
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[Warlord Zsinj]

Very cool. I hope whoever does the anim can get that back tread to rotate correctly as the unit turns.

One possible issue that I spotted was that in order to have decent firing kickback (which the gun seems designed for, and I think would look great), the weapon seems like it will clip through the tracks if it is firing vertically.

[Pressure Line]

OK got some tweaks on it, I made the swing arm for the cannon lift for the high angle shooting.

>_>

[MR.D]

But after its all said and done, if the guy who scripts it makes that part move to far backwards, it could still clip.

The first video wasn't very helpful in pinpointing exactly how far I would like it to move back, or just how much space is free for clearance.

This should help clear that up Zsinj.

http://www.mrd.str8-6.com/files/wolverine_test2.zip

[Warlord Zsinj]

I see. Well, in that case I'd say that in my opinion the kickback needs to be greater; preferably at least to the point where clipping is just missed (or even a slight clip that you would realistically never see). Perhaps you can increase the length of the arm, or the angle of the arm to slightly to allow it to be held higher and allow for greater kickback?

I think good kickback is important to add to the drama of an artillery piece.

And to all the disciples: These are just opinions. Mr.D may ignore them and the design would still be fine, it is just an idea which he may or may not use that I think would improve things. If you have faith in MR.D for producing excellent designs, then you ought to owe him enough respect to believe that he can stick to his guns if presented with something he disagrees with

[MR.D]

I dunno Zsinj...

The twisting motion was always the thing I noticed on the Wolverine when playing AA, BA, and SA.

Even the original was hard to see the actual barrel parts move up close, and tbh, I'm not really worried about it.

Its only there for cinema stuff anyway or making movies, its the only time that you are zoomed in enough to notice those things, since they happen so fast and move such short distances compared the other body parts on the models.

[Warlord Zsinj]

I dunno, barrel recoils was always something I noticed in TA. I always noticed barrel recoils, and the way units would rock when firing. Little details like that just added so much to my overall immersion.

But I mean, it's your call. I'd like to see the recoil increased as far as possible, seeing as it's an artillery unit.

[clericvash]

I like the animations in the second video, very cool :D

[KDR_11k]

Having the turret spin a bit doesn't really make sense for high traj since the force is almost entirely downward. Should be limited to low traj.

[Warlord Zsinj]

I think the spinning was just to illustrate to me how it wouldn't clip if it were in full 'kickback' position irrespective of where it had rotated to fire.

[Machiosabre]

I think it spins because its a a torso with a gun for an arm, if you pretend your arm is a big gun and you fire it up, you'll spin a bit!