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problem of balistic=1 limits

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ankh
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Post by ankh »

emmanuel: pour tirer a + de 45 degr├â┬®e il faut activer le mode "HighTrajectory" tout simplement...

PS: Stop speak French, learn english dude ^^"
Torrasque
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Post by Torrasque »

ankh wrote:PS: Stop speak French, learn english dude ^^"
I'm not a french master, but have you seen how he speak french?
How can he learn a foreing language with these bases.
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NOiZE
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Post by NOiZE »

i think this forum should stay in one langauge, english, and that's not my main langauge.

IMO, everybody on the entire planet should learn english, not everybody has to be perfect at it, as long as u can make yourself clear in it. It will make a lot of things a lot easier. Well it would be even better if every1 would speak dutch, but hey that's not gonna happen. :P
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aGorm
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Post by aGorm »

Lets face it, we made the best language... :-)

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PauloMorfeo
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Post by PauloMorfeo »

NOiZE wrote:i think this forum should stay in one langauge, english, ...
I'm not entirely sure about that... There are a few users here that i prefer they speak something else and i translate it than they speaking some english that no one understands...
aGorm wrote:Lets face it, we made the best language... :-)
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You got to be joking!
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You
He/She
We
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They


Check Esperanto.
Warlord Zsinj
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Post by Warlord Zsinj »

Mmm, speaking of babel, have the SY's fixed the heightmap issues enough so that my Tower of Babel idea will work?
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Post by FizWizz »

aGorm wrote:Lets face it, we made the best language
You have to be joking. I'm a native English speaker but I have to say that English is one of the most asinine languages in existence. English is also apparently one of the hardest languages to learn as a non-native, as I understand.
However, English is also unfortunately one of the most common languages (in the western world, anyway, sorry if I sound Eurocentric), and one of the most advantageous to learn.

What the heck, I'll throw in a translation for our French members too. It's probably not great though.

Vous devez plaisanter. Je suis un haut-parleur anglais natal mais je dois dire que cet anglais est un des la plupart des langues sots dans l'existence. L'anglais est aussi apparemment une des langues les plus dures pour apprendre comme un non-natal, comme je comprends. Cependant, l'anglais est aussi malheureusement un des la plupart des langues communs (dans le monde de l'ouest, de toute fa├â┬ºon, d├â┬®sol├â┬® si je Eurocentric solide), et un des plus avantageux pour apprendre.
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Post by Torrasque »

So, let's lean Esperanto, as I have heard, it's very easy to learn, you can have all the grammar rules in one sheet.
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SinbadEV
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Post by SinbadEV »

/me goes to learn Esperanto
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emmanuel
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Post by emmanuel »

je comprends pas en quoi mes phrases sont incomprenhensibles
tout ce que je dis n engage que totalA si tu regarde mes postes dans help j ai jamais reussi a demarer spring je suis toujours a frames 0 je peut juste naviguer dans une map vide
ainsi tu peut faire des tirs verticaux?
en utilisant vlaunch=1 je supose
aucun interet si accuracy n est pas efectif
seul balistic=1 le permet dans totalA
et j ai lu les innovations de spring ca ne change rien a part leur histoire d altitude truquee et les repulseurs
je constate aussi que personne ne fait de reponse tecniq ici
c est toujours j ai tord pour des raisons floues
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Post by Torrasque »

D├â┬®soler si j'ai l'air d'insister, mais il me semble que personnes n'a l'aire de bien te comprendre, en francais, et encore plus en englais.

Le truc, comme je l'ai dis plus haut, c'est que tu continue a faire ce comme tu pense, sans nous ├â┬®couter. Par exemple : on te dis qu'il suffit d'utiliser HighTrajectory=1, et tu continue avec ton histoire de vlaucnh...sans m├â┬¬me demander une explication a propos dudis tag.

Sinon, a propos de nos r├â┬®ponse, je r├â┬®ponderais cela :
Une question pr├â┬®cise = une r├â┬®ponse pr├â┬®cise
Une question technique = une r├â┬®ponse technique..
et dans ton cas, une question flou = une r├â┬®ponse flou.

De plus, Spring a beaucoup de possibilit├â┬®es qui ne sont ├â┬®crites nulle part, n'assume pas que tu connais tout. Car ce n'est surement pas le cas.
En effet, les am├â┬®liorations de spring ne se r├â┬®sument pas ├â┬á une altitude truq├â┬®e et des r├â┬®pulseurs.

Bon, j'├â┬®sp├â┬¿re que tu ne prendra pas mal ce message.
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emmanuel
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Post by emmanuel »

non je ne le prends pas mal
mais comme je l ai preciser je n ai pas l honneur de pouvoir jouer a spring malgre mes nombreuses demandes d aides precises et mes reports
a quoi bon avoir une hautes trajectoir si c est pour se retrouver comme dans doom1 a voir les projectiles grimper magiquement
connait tu une unitee qui puisse lancer une grenade deriere un mur proche ?
personne ne parle reelement de ma question tecnique de balistic=1 meme si j ai lu les ameliorations de spring ca ne change pas le probleme de weaponvelocity restreinte a des valeurs proches
cela te semble t il sufisant que la vitesse d un obus fleche soit a peine le double de celle d une grenade ? et on est censer utliser des armes electromagnetiques a 1400m/s en meme temps que des projectiles a 250m/s
une BD(et le film DUNE) avait evoquer le champ de stase qui limitait la vitesse (probablement par densitee)
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emmanuel
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Post by emmanuel »

prenez pour exemple les modernes chars d artillerie genre m109 il peuvent faire un tir direct entre -10° et +45° ou un tir indirect entre +45° et +80°
mais sachant que un angle de 80° donnera au projectile une distance comparable au un angle de environ 10°(j ai pas calculer en fait) comment le moteur de jeu deciderais il ?(-HighTrajectory now requires a HighTrajectory tag in the unit file (0=only low, 1=only high,2=choose)
est ce que une coline ou un corpse engage automatiquement en high traject ?
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Post by IMSabbel »

FizWizz wrote:
aGorm wrote:Lets face it, we made the best language
You have to be joking. I'm a native English speaker but I have to say that English is one of the most asinine languages in existence. English is also apparently one of the hardest languages to learn as a non-native, as I understand.
However, English is also unfortunately one of the most common languages (in the western world, anyway, sorry if I sound Eurocentric), and one of the most advantageous to learn.

What the heck, I'll throw in a translation for our French members too. It's probably not great though.

Vous devez plaisanter. Je suis un haut-parleur anglais natal mais je dois dire que cet anglais est un des la plupart des langues sots dans l'existence. L'anglais est aussi apparemment une des langues les plus dures pour apprendre comme un non-natal, comme je comprends. Cependant, l'anglais est aussi malheureusement un des la plupart des langues communs (dans le monde de l'ouest, de toute fa├â┬ºon, d├â┬®sol├â┬® si je Eurocentric solide), et un des plus avantageux pour apprendre.
Und ich sag dazu nur: Egal was die Muttersprache nun ist, emmanuels Versuche sich in Englisch zu artikulieren sind wirklich erbärmlich...
Auch in Frankreich ist Englisch im Fremdsprachenprogramm, und so wie der redet ist 5. oder 6. Klasse Niveau. Also wirklich. Nationalstolz sch├â┬Ân und gut (und um das zu zeigen schreib ich diese post auch deutsch...), aber in einen englischen Forum braucht man sich ja wirklich nicht so zu blamieren...
<- Just something to enrich the multi-langual aspect of the forum. Feel free to ignore.

edit: and forget about english being hard to lern... every other language i looked at was at least as hard... (---throwing that damn kanji dictionary into the corner)
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mother
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Post by mother »

IMSabbel wrote:(---throwing that damn kanji dictionary into the corner)
:lol:
Kanji is NUTS. It's so hard that the 2 languages that use it, Chinese and Japanese, literally can't deal with it :)

Japanese only uses a tiny fraction of the 'characters' (hirigana and katakana are much easier to learn, and are only about 70 'characters' combined)... China has moved to simplified kanji because they can't even deal with the full weight of it- and your social status tends to define how many of the 'characters' that you actually understand!

On the other hand... I guess you would have to say that both of those (at least written) languages make a hell of a lot more sense then written english... Now at what point does this thread get moved to a different Forum? hehe
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PauloMorfeo
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Post by PauloMorfeo »

Snatching this thread a little more...

My main concern is the exclusiveness and elitism of not accepting those who are not fortune enough to speak english well enough... What will we tell them? «If you can't speak english, you're not welcome!»?
FizWizz wrote:... English is also apparently one of the hardest languages to learn as a non-native, as I understand.
...
Actually, i think not... If you're only speaking English, and not writing it, i regard english as a fairly easy to learn language.
English wrote:I thought
You thought
He/She thought
We thought
You thought
They thought
(always "thought" and both the singular and plural "you" are the same)

Friend (both male and female)
Beautifull (both male and female)
Portuguese wrote:Eu pensei
Tú pensaste
Ele/Ela pensou
Nós pensámos
Vós pensasteis
Eles pensaram
(all diferent)

Amigo (male) Amiga (female)
Belo/Bonito (male) Bela/Bonita (female)
Of course these are trade offs. All these diferent aspects of Portuguese make it dificult to learn but also make it powerfull and rich. It is very confortable to read/hear portuguese because all those details give information about a "pursuer" beeing male or female, the verbs have strong indications of what time and persons/things they are refering to, etc.
Still, i was once asked in the Spring lobby why would anyone learn Portuguese. To that i can only answer that i see no reason but great personal interest or a really strong need.

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To all those who are interested in learning Esperanto, an easy language, perfect in gramar and syntax, absolutly international without beeing owned by anyone, i say:

Bonvenon al Esperanto, amikoj!
It's been a while since i've used it... Feels good!
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emmanuel
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Post by emmanuel »

i learn french nativ german and english
be sure english is easy for us and german too!
in french 6 times past or future and each person (i you he she ) have a diferent termination german hav 4 for time it seems
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GrOuNd_ZeRo
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Post by GrOuNd_ZeRo »

Nou Godverdomme, als we zo gaan beginnen kan ik even goed ook nederlands lullen! wat een onzin!
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jcnossen
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Post by jcnossen »

Gelijk heb je! Die kutfransozen kunnen ook nooit eens fatsoenlijk engels leren he...
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Michilus_nimbus
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Post by Michilus_nimbus »

Now let's get back to speaking god damned English.
The internet is meant to make communication easier, but if everyone starts speaking it's own native tongue (including French, German, Dutch, Swedish, Polish, Russian, Spanish and Portuguese), things are bound to derail, and these fora will become a playground for language fan boys.
Now Emmanuel, I suggest you rephrase your problem in proper English, perhaps use a dictionary of some kind, so that someone can give you a clear answer.

I know it's hard to learn a different language, but eventually it'll pay off, since it's very likely you'll need it later anyway.
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