How long should the inner 2nd barrel be? Don't know if this is currently good, or maybe shorten down the main barrel so that the inner one is visible through most of that front opening in the covers.
Arm Hammer Test
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Stealth870
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How long should the inner 2nd barrel be? Don't know if this is currently good, or maybe shorten down the main barrel so that the inner one is visible through most of that front opening in the covers.
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I'd shorten the bigger one until it was nearly at the place where the covers' pin is, so that you can get a good long recoil out of it (remember, this guy's tiny on-screen, so small movements won't very easy to see).
And make the smaller one slightly larger in diameter- it'll be Ok, and shouldn't z-fight, unless it's extremely close, and it'd look better. Overall, that really looks like a winner to me, it'll be really nice and full of character when skinned / animated
And make the smaller one slightly larger in diameter- it'll be Ok, and shouldn't z-fight, unless it's extremely close, and it'd look better. Overall, that really looks like a winner to me, it'll be really nice and full of character when skinned / animated
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Stealth870
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Ok, cool. I got this thing unwrapped and I guess will be stuck swapping back and forth finding out which pieces goes where. 
Is there an easier way to do this? It doesn't seem the separate objects' faces are being grouped together on this texture. 
In Wings I combined everything, right click UVmap -> Direct. Then selected everything except the bottom edges (on the foot), Continue - Unwrap, and I got my external 512x512 texture PNG.
Is there an easier way to do this? It doesn't seem the separate objects' faces are being grouped together on this texture. In Wings I combined everything, right click UVmap -> Direct. Then selected everything except the bottom edges (on the foot), Continue - Unwrap, and I got my external 512x512 texture PNG.
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I think Rattle's going to be your best bet on that- my process is completely different, as all I do is get it unwrapped and set it all up for mirroring, and do the final layout in UVMapper Pro.
I'd be happy to take a look at it, though, and unwrap it by object like I'm used to, though.
I'd be happy to take a look at it, though, and unwrap it by object like I'm used to, though.
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Stealth870
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Ok, well here is the "final" version I guess, if anyone wants to look at it. I'm downloading a UV video recommended by Flozi, and also try to figure this out myself.
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I wish you added back the "screws" on the gun covers
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Stealth870
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Huh? Didn't you say to take them off?smoth wrote:I wish you added back the "screws" on the gun covers
Unless you meant the rings on that "backpack" cylinder. Geez, I need to learn more of these robot/tank part terminologies -_- I'll re-add them. (Edit Above)the tank clasps on the back can be removed and drawn via textures.
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I downloaded the model, screwed around with it a bit:
As you can see, it's no longer the same design, not really. I started with just minor edits, and ended up changing quite a lot, mainly to satisfy myself about visual balance and other issues.
Sorry in advance, if this was offensive in any way, it's just screwing around on my part, not meant to imply that I didn't like the design as it was.
As you can see, it's no longer the same design, not really. I started with just minor edits, and ended up changing quite a lot, mainly to satisfy myself about visual balance and other issues.
Sorry in advance, if this was offensive in any way, it's just screwing around on my part, not meant to imply that I didn't like the design as it was.
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Besides the little anchors on the feet, I'd say that is pretty much the bomb right there Argh.
If the cannons were moved a little more forward, I think the recoil vs balance of weight would be just about right too.
If the cannons were moved a little more forward, I think the recoil vs balance of weight would be just about right too.
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Warlord Zsinj
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I also like that Argh.
A few crits:
- I agree, the anchors look weird, probably drop them.
- I like the way the top cover folds up, but imo, the bottom cover looks strange moving 'down'. It ruins the nice lines of the weapon. What if the top cover slid up, but instead of moving the bottom cover down, only the 'cap' slides or folds down?
- I think the legs are a little a-directional; I think they should have a more clear geometric emphasis on 'front' vs 'back'.
A few crits:
- I agree, the anchors look weird, probably drop them.
- I like the way the top cover folds up, but imo, the bottom cover looks strange moving 'down'. It ruins the nice lines of the weapon. What if the top cover slid up, but instead of moving the bottom cover down, only the 'cap' slides or folds down?
- I think the legs are a little a-directional; I think they should have a more clear geometric emphasis on 'front' vs 'back'.
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anchors are on the wrong side of the foot.
a drag/hook style anchor like that would need to be on the toe
a drag/hook style anchor like that would need to be on the toe
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Stealth870
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No prob Argh, nice modification there. Only thing I personally don't like are the back heel claw things, and that I think the Hammer should be a shorter, stubby K-bot. 
Otherwise it looks cool.
Otherwise it looks cool.
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Any chace You ca alter the legs to look a bit more complicated?
There look very simple from the side.
Maybe make like semi visible joints.
There look very simple from the side.
Maybe make like semi visible joints.
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+1 That pretty much sums it up.Warlord Zsinj wrote:I also like that Argh.
A few crits:
- I agree, the anchors look weird, probably drop them.
- I like the way the top cover folds up, but imo, the bottom cover looks strange moving 'down'. It ruins the nice lines of the weapon. What if the top cover slid up, but instead of moving the bottom cover down, only the 'cap' slides or folds down?
- I think the legs are a little a-directional; I think they should have a more clear geometric emphasis on 'front' vs 'back'.
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Still don't like the guns...
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Maybe make units that follow a certain style? instead of everyine just doing whatever they want...?
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If you provide the concept art for that, sure
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Stealth870
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For me, it would be upgraded Cavedog style.Gota wrote:Maybe make units that follow a certain style? instead of everyine just doing whatever they want...?
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Well Mr.d has a sty;e he follows